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Could just highlight the modules listing with a yellow border to indicate a possible hotspot for dropping the module you want to drag off the ship to unfit it

a tiny trashcan that highlights when you drag a module would also work :P but i'd expect that to be undesirable to the design team

Looks promising!

It just seems a bit more natural to click on a module to turn it on than having to use radial menu. We also added the radial menu way later, when we had pretty much settled on the clicking to change the modules state.
Sounds a bit silly to say since I implemented it, but I'm a big fan of the radial menu and always use it when playing.
There is however a bit of a conflict with dragging. If something with a radial menu is draggable and you click on it and start to drag, do you want the radial menu or just to drag the thing? We have a way to guess the best we can what you were trying to do, but you can run into issues with this with drones and also in the fleet watchlist and it's pretty annoying when you want to drag things and get the radial menu. It's one of the reasons we haven't made a serious push to add radial menu to the inventory, where you do a lot of dragging of items. So that's a factor here too, you'll be dragging stuff around and that might become annoying.
Hope that makes sense
Btw, we just added the ability to go in the other direction. If you hold down SHIFT it toggles offline->overheated->active->online.

Another bug:

If you change the UI scaling with the character sheet open the times next to your skills in the skills area wrap incorrectly. Changing the UI scaling doesn't fix it, but changing skill categories does.

I don't think that's necessary. Can have key combinations (if they're not already used) of shift+click to turn a module to overheat, ctrl+click to cycle between active and online and alt+click for offline.



Agreed, I think a radial menu on each module would be a horrible mess. However (not that I think it should be done but) you _could_ theoretically, on hover, have icons appear on the outside radius of the fitting area (what i mean is, on a circle concentric to the modules but with a larger radius, farther out) which stay there if you hover directly from the module to them (much like the "Add to queue" button on the skill tooltips now, although the hover threshold there was weird). It _wouldn't_ be snappy to use and I really don't think this is an issue at all. At _most_ have hotkeys - the current functionality I think is sufficiently practical, considering how the UI works overall.

Wanted to also say thanks for fixing the ship traits for the simulation (used to not count, now they do :P) and huge props for the inclusion of probe strength and scan time on hover of launchers (I think it was you - if not, mad props to whoever's responsible!). I know it's already on TQ but I only recently noticed.

i mean having it onlining/offlining on left click is intuitive and also nice for backwards compatibility with the old fitting window, however the cycling through the other states attached to left click feels inconsistent in context of already having the radial menu feature for the rack. Plus it does not communicate to a new player what is actually happening, if a player clicks an overheat icon of the radial he can derive from it what he/she just did, clicking three times on an icon to make it change color however does not tell anything.

If you want to overheat the whole rack you can use the radial on the rack icon, but if you want to test only a single item you have to cycle through states instead of using the radial on the item icon?



yeah but that problem exists in other places too, for example in the target list, do you want to sort your targets or open the radial? A good default setting for the radial menu delay would mitigate that, but what usually works best for radial menus is to avoid using them on the primary mouse button. Eve has it on the left button so it is kinda stuck with the decision now.



the old fitting window has also another cool menu which popped up on mouse-over. Maybe that would be the solution if updated to the same quality of the radial menu? (larger icons with no space between the segments, like an unrolled radial menu)

Buy-all obviously should be in the right-click menu of a fit.

That's just... Eve UI 101 stuff.

Are there any plans for:

- damage profiles ?

Reason: we fit ships against something. Even new / less experience players wanting to get sensible fit - simulation as currently implemented won't really help them and they will be quickly pointed to 3rd party tools.

Think how completely different a fit (and potentially a t2+ ship choice) would be when going against Sansha and against Angels.

I know there's the aim of being "more basic, less overwhelming", but this is IMHO essential.

- what about simulating boosters and implants ?

They can bring quite devastating differences (think astero that can align <1s, impel with 1m ehp, etc.). And it's good to have when trying to compare apples to apples while discussing fits in game. Otherwise we're back to alt-tabbing to pyfa/etc.



Form other stuff I noticed, EHP calculation seems a bit off when compared to Pyfa/EFT/calc.exe. Are there any roundings involved at some point, or shortcuts taken ?

For now we are not adding those things, but that's not saying we can't add them later. For now we'll be sticking to the basics and polish what we have, but the 3rd party tools already do this very well and we fully expect that people will keep using them

Thanks, I'll take a look at the EHP, it wasn't off before but now it seems to be way off the way off part was because I had a super powerful QA module fitted but apart from that, I see exactly the same numbers as in Pyfa

Just looked into it and there are reasons for it and it's a correct value. If you found yourself sitting in this ship with level 0, the server would also consider this your resistance. It's really a non issue though, because you'd have to have at least level 1 to be in it, so you'd always have that +4% anyways