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A decade.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#1 - 2016-09-24 13:19:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Today is my 10th EVE birthday. I have been within this game for just a few less than 3653 days (there were a few days when I let the sub lapse while I was on holiday and such). Much has changed within the game - I have changed a lot since them - but more has stayed the same.

New ships, new mechanics, and much more importantly, new social models and organisational methods. There were no public NPSI fleets in 2006, there were no large, well-run, well funded "newbro" alliances like Brave Newbies, Horde, Karmafleet back then. Not only was the game dominated by veteran organisations perhaps even more then than now, but there was basically no place for the new player in most activities. The tiercide project was years away, and there was very little that a new player could contribute to a "serious" fleet other than fly a rifter or a blackbird, and quickly die as soon as they were noticed.

T2 items were produced soley from BPOs, and were unthinkably expensive. At a time when you could buy a 30-day GTC for ~90m ISK, a Cerberus cost ~300m ISK. Imagine a HAC costing the price of 3 PLEX today - that will give you an idea of how out of reach such ships seemed then. And that was just the hull; the T2 launchers would be 20m each, and so on.

Since then we've seen the EVE economy and society evolve almost beyond recognition. Many of the names are the same, but most of the methods are different. The level of organisation and infrastructure that even a mediocre 0.0 group is routinely expected to have now was simply unthinkable back then. Likewise the abundance of, well, everything is overwhelming. Everyone in the game expects to be able to buy pretty much anything they want in whatever quantity they need for a fairly stable- and low- price.

I think it would be pretty foolish to say whether all these changes have made EVE "better" or "worse". One of the few tings we can say with certainty is that EVE absolutely needs continuous change, not necessarily in every factor all the time, but there should always be significant changes occuring in some significant aspect of the game. The greatest threat EVE could face would be being sold to EA; after that, stagnation and predictability. Every major change - and there have been too many in 10 years for me to even start to try and list them - has winners and losers. And every time, the winers have crowed and the losers have cried.

The original Forum was the the seat of Athenian democracy, and I feel pretty safe in saying that the debates there were probably not all that different in type and form to the debates seen right here; self-interest, ideology, fear, and pride, generally mixed in with incohate patriotism and seasoned with as much rhetoric as the recipe would stand.

Yet even though it was distilled from such unpromising ingredients, the democracy of Athens was something new to the world, and it offered the inhabitants world something it may have never seen before: the idea that there could be a society where more than just will of the tyrant, the monarch could affect the course of events.

EVE still makes that offer to the gaming world. EVE might be violent, unforgiving, hypocritical, oppressive, obsessed with money, selfish, treachrous and cruel. Athens was all of those things when the Forum was at the height of its power. EVE, like Athens, also writes incredible stories, and offers unique glories to those she calls her own. Who would live in any other city? Why would one live any other way? Where else would one nevigate but to such a port? What other game sustains such pride?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#2 - 2016-09-24 13:37:55 UTC
Happy Anniversary.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-09-24 14:05:22 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Happy Anniversary.

Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
#4 - 2016-09-24 14:36:30 UTC
But did the Forum have dank memes?

Agent of the New Order

Live by the Code - die by the Code.

The Voice of Highsec

Cristl
#5 - 2016-09-24 16:10:20 UTC
'Appy burfday matey! I, too, remember T2 cap rechargers and covert cloaks etc. being monopolised. Good riddance to that.

I do miss images in the forum sometimes. The Bob / ASCN propaganda was pretty good at times (I'm an ex-hobbit, but the Bob poster with Jules from Pulp Fiction titled "CTRL-Q ain't no system I ever heard of!" image made me giggle).

Also: This...is...SPARTA!
Cristl
#6 - 2016-09-24 16:16:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Cristl
Holy shit, Malcanis. Do a profile check on yourself and Cristl: created within 3 days of each other, and first shitposts less than 2 hours apart!

What the hell are the odds on that?!

Edit: should have tried to infiltrate Init under the guise of a Malcanis alt?
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#7 - 2016-09-24 17:38:03 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Happy Anniversary.

Remove standings and insurance.

Serene Repose
#8 - 2016-09-24 17:54:08 UTC
Hear! Hear! And...grats. Many more returns. Cool

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
Transgress
#9 - 2016-09-24 18:05:06 UTC
That's a lot of words for "I have funny hair where I used not to".
It's OK buddy, your voice will get deeper too and it's completely natural at your age.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#10 - 2016-09-24 18:06:50 UTC
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:
But did the Forum have dank memes?




Wait what, that's a Templar, an Amarrian Fighter because of Falcon?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2016-09-24 18:44:55 UTC
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:
But did the Forum have dank memes?


Memes were still pretty good back then. I wonder where Liz Kali is now?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2016-09-24 18:45:47 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
That's a lot of words for "I have funny hair where I used not to".
It's OK buddy, your voice will get deeper too and it's completely natural at your age.


I have quite the opposite hair issue Sad

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Valkin Mordirc
#13 - 2016-09-24 18:51:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
That's a lot of words for "I have funny hair where I used not to".
It's OK buddy, your voice will get deeper too and it's completely natural at your age.


I have quite the opposite hair issue Sad



ME TOO!


At least you made it 10 years!

I'm at...3!
#DeleteTheWeak
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
#14 - 2016-09-24 21:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
10 years and not a bittervet. The CSM we need.

Happy anniversary.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#15 - 2016-09-24 21:34:47 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
10 years and not a bittervet. The CSM we need.

Happy anniversary.



The Athenians had a word for a man who did not participate in the politics of the city. But I have served my term, and I'm happy to let others serve theirs now. 1 year was definitely enough.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#16 - 2016-09-24 22:25:52 UTC
Happy birthday, ten is a great number.
Especially liked the bit about how expensive and out of reach things could be once-upon-a-time. I arrived just after Apocrypha and doing things in null/wh needed a really hard nose and SpongeBob levels of spiritual buoyancy.
Would you say you've become more, or less, kind to others in-game?



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2016-09-24 22:51:36 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Happy birthday, ten is a great number.
Especially liked the bit about how expensive and out of reach things could be once-upon-a-time. I arrived just after Apocrypha and doing things in null/wh needed a really hard nose and SpongeBob levels of spiritual buoyancy.
Would you say you've become more, or less, kind to others in-game?


I've always been a bit kind, I'm kind of a softie at heart really. Mostly what's changed is that I've got older and tireder and less enthusiatic about making contact with people outside my EVE monkeysphere.

By a happy coincidence, being nice to people is also one of the best and most uncounterable ways of trolling the everliving **** out of them so I barely have to switch mental gears when I want to upset somebody.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Marsha Mallow
#18 - 2016-09-24 23:16:22 UTC
Happy Birthday P

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
#19 - 2016-09-24 23:32:03 UTC
Happy 10th anniversary! Feels good doesn't it? I am getting close too...

This summer my toon turned 8. I told my colleagues I have a birthday, they were like where are all the treats? I told them its my EVE char's birthday, but if they come to EVE I'll buy them whatever they want...

They told me I am crazy if I remember my character's birth date, but then they knew how am I with numbers (I remember over hundred tel. numbers)

I am using every possible occasion to recruit! Big smile
Eternus8lux8lucis
Duckzer Mining Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
#20 - 2016-09-24 23:34:06 UTC
Well posted. Welcome to the club.Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

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