Missions & Complexes

Hi,
I fought belt rats with T2frigates Wolf.
I do good, but i want to try anomalies with a battlecruiser
Here it is :

[Tornado, Sniper]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Counterbalanced Compact Gyrostabilizer

Target Painter II
10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP L

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ionic Field Projector II
Medium Ionic Field Projector II

I can fit that at the moment.
403DPS, optimal shoot 86km (with T1 EMP/Fusion), up to 113km, with still good damage (don't know precisely, i guess 300)
I have few questions : If i shoot null sec rat at 90Km, What could be the problem ? Do they fly faster than 600m/s ? Do they have warp dirsupt/scrambl ?
Then : What second ship would i need with this, for hard missioning ?

Indeed, I have basically 0 tank, (not even a damage control, i could replace the counterbalanced, with a T1 damage control, but really, is that worth it ?) I thought one nanofiber internal structure for quick escape.

Tell me Everything.

Thank you for letting me know the meta game, this is very kind of you. But I already know it.
If i post here, it is not for being on my knees mouth open waiting for the perfect solution.
It's a discussion I want. Because it's a forum.
I can't afford 2month for skill. I'm already skilling Machariel for the next 4month, this is a temporary solution.
I'm an indy, i want to kills some rats in decent way.
Don't take me for a fool.

I asked questions, you didn't answer any, you just dropped your balls on the table.
By the way, thank you, these are nice balls.

So please, I won't pay for it, take them off, this is not what I want.

So until i can't fly any ship that you advised me. I won't earn any isk except with my indy management, and this is passive income, i have much time to make usefull. Mining is boring so, but very lucrative.
Anywhere i mean, the best way to earn isk is to do PI in addition in other activites, but what percentage of player actually do both ?
I'm no statician, but i saw so many empty planets, with big ressources, I really wonder, what people are doing ? Wanking on the biggest carrier, dreaming about it ?

I asked what kind of ship i could farm with, because, i'm in corporation with good lads, that are ready to help me, and farm anom in team. I'm not alone in deep space, or missioning.
It is good fun tho, and very fast, and less risky.

Of course i'm asking something about BC, because it's the highest ship class, that i have high skills. When I will have 60B Skill points, i won't ask such a question. I am Minmatar, i started to skill amarr for Machariel, and you suggest me to skill Gallente ship. This will never end. I will never earn ISK, because it's the point. I have skills to use T2 artillery, and you tell me, forget drones are best. But can you overload drones ? I don't know anything, but drone damage amplifier, is passiv right ?

If I would have your skill, this BC would deal 626DPS, at 95Km full dps, with about 10.5K Dammage per shot. What ship will long more than two riffle ? The scram are on destroyer/cruiser/frigates ? or do they bs have some too ? These are my real questions.
Maybe i asked my question with a few accuracy because i don't have a great experience of anomaly, that you might have.

Why couldn't i track rat frig, with this fit ? Tell me

Finally, if i suggested, this Tornado, it's because i find it so sexy. "Like an apple in the hand of a baby". Admit it is really impressive to fit such turret on a little BC.

I'm sorry Perkin Warbeck , i don't like to be taken for a fool. I might been rude. I didn't mean it.
It's your advices i want, and they are welcome.

You don't want what's most effective , you want what you like .... I share the sentiment.

Since you're skilling for Mach , how about fitting a tornado like a mach?

8x tech 2 800mm AC

1x 50MN Compact Microwarpdrive
2x Tracking Computer II
1x Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
1x Large Shield Extender II

4x Gyrostabilizer II

2x Medium Processor Overclocking Unit
1x poly/ccc/shield res to taste

some 700dps , falloff 50km , goes stupidly fast for a BC ,, ship's bonus to falloff benefits ACs more than arties , at range tracking frigs is not an issue for ACs

just don't get caught cuz they do scram

you didn't say where you rat , so ... it works for angels, kinda works for serpentis , guristas... who wants to rat there?
any space with lazerboats - forget it (resists holes)

swapping gyros for TE lowers dps but increases range , also no need for cpu rigs ... play arounf , see what works best for you

overall , you won't be particularly successful , but it will be a hell of a ride

Here is the issue; you are asking if a slow, untanked glass cannon (and frankly, at under 500 dps with large turrets, not much of a cannon at that) would be a reasonable proposition for a ratting ship for null, and you were told plainly that it isn't. Unless you produce it for "free" (hint: it wasnt actually free) and run insurance fraud, you won't be isk positive whelping those out in space.

The tracking of large artillery is borderline abysmal, and this is before target signature radius vs signature resolution of your guns is taken into account. As i recall, large turret sig res is 400m. If you don't know what this means, and why tracking is important (as it is a contributing factor to why the 'nado is a poor choice of null ratter) then you really need to learn turret mechanics.

If you are worried about the rats being a threat to your ship, don't undock it. If null rats are a threat to your ratting ship, it isn't a good one and flying it is a losing proposition, as you need to be fitted to deal with players.
The stacking penalties are just the icing on that steaming cake of a nado fit, a tech 1 combat frigate piloted by a brand new character could reasonably expect to pop you, and the reality of the matter is there is someone that is pribably already waiting for you in a stratios or proteus ready to lolwhore your km in local.

So, someone gave you a direct answer without any bullshit (train for a VNI); unfortunately it wasn't the answer you wanted.

You are training towards ships that use large projectiles; I get it. The problem with this is you don't seem to have a firm grasp on the finer points of applying damage using turrets. Have you trained motion prediction to 5? At 403 dps listed, either you BC skill is below 4, or you have got poor gunnery support skills.
Realistically, training for a VNI could take less time than getting your gunnery support up to the point where large turrets are actually a good option.

If you want to stick with minmatar, either a hurricane or cyclone will be much more effective. Especially if you fit a local tank.

Tornado is in my opinion no good for PVE, large guns can't track very well if they get up close and it doesn't tank any better. Its more of an alpha ship using artillery, of anything go with a hurricane theyre very efficent ratters and cheaper too.

But as others have pointed out the Mach hybridizes the Gallente Skill line so training into a VNI is a rather close and natural progression of your existing queue utilizing skills that most everyone should at some point train like T2 drones or T2 sentires/Heavies