EVE General Discussion

Please tell me what you think about this rule.
I returned to EVE after a long period of absence and find our that "All good loot (not t1 - t2) goes to FC" very common now among some big communities in EVE.
I remember that long ago such rule were never in use.

So please tell me is it a trend in EVE now for most of corp and alliances, or it is an strange exception?

And the FC might only be compensated for his efforts through part of this arrangement.
Usually if we kill something very shiny loot goes to an FC, a central corporation or a person who is willing to divide it amongst the group or towards a particular cause.
If you fly T1 stuff insuring the ship should cover most of your costs.

An alternative rule "you get to keep what you scoop" has too many perverse incentives and potential drama causing elements that it's just easier to give it all to the fc and "let him deal with it" (turning stuff into isk is what some of us are too lazy for so this is actually quite convenient.)

ps. i reserve the right to keep any corpses scooped on roams :D

Also I dont mean that the loot will be spreaded among members by FK - he will just keep all the loot to himself.

Indeed, feel free to become a content creator, instigator and hoarder or lemmings. Then you get to decide what to do with the loot and you can deal with the "waah but he took all the loot, why does he get all the loot, he didn't even do a lot of damage, I got the kill does that I mean i get the loot" nonsense OR you can decide to do the "I'm not interested in your loot whines, it goes all to me. End of story, stop whining".

Ummm, from your OP:

"Please tell me what you think about this rule. "

If you don't like what we think that's ok, but we just responded to what you asked for.

all loot to Perunga?

i like srp so dont mind giving loot to alliance, i dont even bother picking up loot, but if its gatecamping and we kill something shiney then splitting it between everyone seems fair.

This is the equivalent of the Master Loot scheme you see in other MMO's.

All loot goes to the raid leader, and then he or she has some sort of out-of-game app that calculates how it should be distributed based on accumulated raid attendance points or DKP or whatever excel spreadsheet they use.

The system has several advantages:

- it's fair; you know ahead of time what you're likely to get, based on the spreadsheet that's published on the guild website
- it prevents ninja looting / loot theft
- it expedites the op / raid / mission because people don't stop to bicker for loot right after the fight, as the loot can be handed out after the raid or sent via mail

Believe it or not, the free-for-all loot system (everyone loots whatever they kill or whatever they can) often results in no loot for you, because others are much faster to get to it than you are. It's just a lot of frustration.

EDIT: Anyway, the master loot system is VERY common in other MMO's, almost to the point of being the only way it's done.

And yes, if there's a joint operation that's open to the public, the few pubbies that join the op will not get any loot, or only get loot if nobody in the organizing corp needs it. Such ops are often stealth recruitment interviews, too: they can observe your skills and if you're chill and don't whine about the lack of loot, they'll invite you to the corp. If you whine, they won't invite you again.

How much drama you cause in an "unfair" situation matters. Because you'll encounter plenty of "unfair", or at the very least "please don't be selfish" situations in a corp.

FC's that do it as a "vocation" and "because it's interesting" will take steps to maximize their fun and how interesting it is. That means they won't invite whiny pubbies, and generally will leave the loot distribution and drama to an assistant.

Or they won't even bother with loot, because as you said "they only do it because it's interesting". So the order to warp to the next objective is given as soon as the last enemy is killed, nobody waits for anybody to have time to loot, and if you stop to do so you're disobeying the FC orders and bye bye.

Either way, you're never going to see public "just for the fun" FC's. Because you'll never be invited to a fleet by one. They simply maximize their fun by keeping it all within the corp or alliance, no pubbies.

So consider that.

wouldnt expect to get your ship's srp'd then, what means more to you, a few shekels from a blown up interceptor or isk back for your 1bil proteus you lost?