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New Rorq boost sucks
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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#41 - 2016-09-23 11:53:24 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
People who complain abotu the Rorq never seem to mention the new miner boosting BC that will be an alternative.

As for boosts, I'll say it again to CCP: these whines are what happens when you put unbalanced stuff in the game and people get used to them as an entitlement. At this point they feel like you OWE them easy to protect, hyper effective off grid boosts....because that's what you gave them for years.



Tbh, even a command dessie / t1 BC can be alternative
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#42 - 2016-09-23 14:37:57 UTC
Actually, I read the OP again I feel a bit sorry for him that he got shafted with the changes.

And I had some nice wins with gambling today, so I thought I would give him a small gift to make him feel better.

I have set up a free contract of 100 Carbons for the OP.

You can use Industrial Core on your Rorqual to compress them, and it will turn into a single unit of Diamond.

I wish you all the best.


love,
Toobo.

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#43 - 2016-09-23 15:07:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
I once again have to ask if I can call my activities to collect space resources from asteroids something other than mining because the OP is embarrassing everyone who thinks themselves a miner. So let me see, your Roq is no longer a totally safe thing to make you "boosted". OK, so. Everyone mining today without a Roq raise your hand. Bonus if you are doing it without any "boost". How oh how are so many of us surviving this clearly unfair disadvantage? Seriously, if this is going to drive you all out of Eve, awesome, be gone you lazy whiner miners!

I am going to try again to explain why Eve is special. It is complicated and mostly free form. Instead of the traditional machine based NPC AI driving it all, Eve makes you "compete" with other humans, which sometimes are clever and driven. They will learn to adapt and optimize no matter what changes may be thrown into the sandbox. If you don't like that then Eve is not for you. There is no "easy" setting in Eve. That is why it continues to keep people engaged.

So I might not always like changes in some mechanics but I adapt and realize that is why I like the challenge. To be honest its when I see changes that maybe put us closer to that "easy" setting that I worry. Not that I don't think there should be some places in Eve that can almost be "easy". That should be high sec, not null. Null should be insanely lucrative and very dangerous. So long as risk is partnered with reward and vis versa all is right in the 'verse".

The Roq should not be some sort of "win" gizmo for lazy miners.


Well well, look who's back!


Never left, just been quietly enjoying the wonders of the "verse". :-)
Zenboca
Doomheim
#44 - 2016-09-27 18:37:42 UTC
Ares Splinter wrote:
CCP now must listen
the new with rorq on the grid so destroys in it for miners and forcing them to lose their BOOST and being dependent on other player to sit there with them and people have said stop in our corp way introduce this, we lose our mines not only that cheated as do my 80 hours with boost just to get to their gametime so kill them now total ..
our mines have announced they stop eve if in carrying this out and then follow our pvp members and pve with we had a corp meeting about it and said we find a different game all together and play if not in coming up with a better solution for those the miners to mine 150 hours instead of the 70-80 hours they do now .. with boost
we do not know what your plan is, but it sucks to all others who do not have a rorq.

This is a MULTIPLAYER GAME...
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2016-09-27 19:02:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:
You can use a drake in place of a Roc, to me it's for years people have said risk vs rewards well guess CCP has taken that advice and have added more risk for the more juicier rewards of fancy roids.

But they were also benevolent in that instead of only orcas and roc's you could use a battle cruiser, so thank CCP for being nice.


FC can I bring a drake?


FC what do?!

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#46 - 2016-09-28 02:24:51 UTC
Off grid ship boosting is cancer, because ships can log out, making a boost rorq nearly impossible to lose ever. Its the same problem other forms of boosting had/have. It puts a player in a ship in the position of doing nothing interesting.

If you want off grid boosts, they should be coming from structures. Structures are a good balance between risk and reliability because they can be destroyed, but they can't be ganked. I'd be very surprised if the new industrial structures don't have mining efficiency fittings to create more long term risk and investment to encourage industrial entities to take ownership of and responsibility for the space they inhabit without constantly having to field a blingy gank target.

Heck, I wouldn't be suprised if they have "command burst" fittings that simply required the miners to check in at the structure every once in a while to get their buff restored. You could even monetize it as a station service. Set up a buff station near a popular ice belt, charge a fee for anyone not in your corp to get boosted. You make passive ISK, but on the flip side you pay in fuel and have to keep it defended through diplomacy or arms.

All the "alt-tab" fits will eventually be moved to one structure or another for good reasons. having someone switch on a module and then just sit there is not gameplay. I wouldn't be suprised if mining itself was given some kind of minigame eventually to make it a more active, engaging, and lucrative activity for people who want to actively mine versus click on lasers and go make a sandwich.
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