EVE General Discussion

Not all of us have the ISK or RL money to plex ninety billion accounts, multiboxing with screens all over the place.

Some of us are quite happy running the one account. I have never felt the need to multibox. One character at a time is sufficient on all other games, so it seems normal to do the same on Eve. However, each to their own, and if you want to pay CCP ridiculous sums of money so you can mine an entire belt with just yourself, knock yourself out.

However it is nice to have three different toons on one account. Eve offers a lot of varied activities, so it's nice to have each toon specializing in different things.

Which brings me to my point:

Full account APIs, and corps demanding them... If you can explain to me the logic in this, please do. Even more so when Alphas are out. If I am going to AWOX you, I'd probably use a toon on a trial account, slightly skilled up. All that happens when you ask for full APIs is another account gets created, and BAM you're AWOXed again.

Any toon can be a spy, I fail to see what you accomplish if you find out my main is in PL, Gewns or CODE. Which they're not of course ;)

Stop asking for full APIs. You're only doing it because you want to come across as oh-so-businesslike and look at us, we're all corporate, etc. You're a tiny 5 man corp ffs. If I wanted to kill you all I wouldn't even be having this convo. Just let my highsec carebear toon join you, and don't ask questions about what I do when I bid you all fly safe. Is it so important that you know my every move on every toon? It's best if you don't, anyway, as it would only make you jealous. Imagine. We're running level 3s and doing a spot of mining, then I log off. Do you really want to know that I'll be in sov, dropping cynos and flying dreads? You'll never be at the top like that anyway, so why not live in ignorance? When we split our ore haul and you give me 5m ISK, do you really want to know the last contract I created was over 200 billion? Really?

I think what it comes down to is you just want to look powerful and picky. And that's why you have 50 man corps, only 3 of which logged in within the last month, and who dock up and pretend you're still having fun every time Marmite has a go (which is probably every week).

TL;DR. Just stop it already.

Simple : If you don't have nothing to hide - why are you not willing to give full api ?
Api itself don't show much if you care about hiding something.

How you can play this game on 1 account, even in higsec it is hard.

I'm fine with 99,5% of the api but I have huge problems with access to the email. If you keep your tracks hidden on the money how high are the chances that you will slip with the emails? On the other side scrutiny of the email is IMHO very invasive to the privacy. There are for very good reasons very strict rules even for firms which emails they can access on an account with shared business and private mail. And for entering a corp we just strip naked. I can't really believe that the NSA was a big scandal while people are opening their email to permanent!!! scrutiny to join corp. This may be not a big thing for noobs but for older players with lots of contacts it is.
IMHO the email has to go out of the api because the usage by clans at the moment is an abuse.

No need for full access api for recruiting.

For someone who needs roles in a Corp, sure. But no need at all for recruiting.

Eve online API is a double-edged sword I'm starting to hate it

I don't like people knowing how much money I have or the history of my transactions

it's one of the reasons why I'm kind of avoiding joining a corporation right now

I seriously think wasn't meant to be used like this in the first place

here's the first part of it it sucks if you kill somebody you don't want anybody to know about it other than that person you can't make it private the same thing goes if you don't want people to know you've been killed by somebody there's no way to keep this information Secret

you give these applications information you do not know if somebody else is reading that information at the other side for their own benefit as well you just have to pray to God they're not using it to **** you over

I'm sure there's programs are designed to hack into these other API programs and basically do some sniffing and their server database not ccp database

Community design programs are not always super secure most of them are not secure at all

It's not rocket science

If a corporation asks for information you don't wish to give them, then don't give it to them. You're in no way required to give them a single shred of information.

By the same token, if you refuse to provide that information, they are under no obligation to let you into their super sekrit club.

I really don't understand why this continues to be a problem - don't want to give it? don't give it. It really is that simple.

this.

people in these big corps who have no problems handing over api's who probably have more isk, assets etc etc than most people, yet new players seem to think its some sort of NSA technique to uncover your secret stash of free rookie ships and steal your niche isk doubling business model

totally agree, it just gives those scared kids the fake feeling to be safe.. maybe they need it to sleep better at night who knows, API checks are total bullshit

API requirements are big turn offs IMO, as with eve always assume people are out to mess you over, never trust anyone, and absolutely never ever give access to your possessions or your Corp assets, as with the RL if they want to "borrow" something you can contract something with collateral, if they can't meet the requirements then just like the housing bubble at some point they will default on their subprime loans.

No API checks is a good content generator