EVE General Discussion

Well the problem is that in highsec corps are pointless because of wardecs, so the first thing I'd do is carry on with CCPs plan to create cut down corps that can't be wardecced so people can have limited corp functions, like shared hangars, wallets, orders, chat room, etc without the ability to be in alliances hold in-space assets and the like while retaining tax (which I'd extend to cover mining too). Then to steer wardecs I'd do something like opening highsec space up to some level of ownership so wardec groups can fight to become tax collectors for a given system. Then all miners and missioners would pay a small amount for any interaction in that system. It'd need fleshing out with some kind of natural degradation and something to stop a huge group just taking over highsec (some form of soft limits on how many systems can be held) but that kind of thing. The general gist would be to encourage war corps to fight against other war corps while making players who want to not get involved in wars at all (or make private deals and alliances with those that do) would pay for it.

The other options are constantly being provided by those that think the whole game is about shooting each other in the face. I provide the option they frequently miss.

The 11% tax only affects mission runners, and they do better to run each ratter from a solo corp then roll it if decced. While miners can see benefits they are far outweighed by how quickly they'll become targets for wardecs when someone sees a group of miners in a corp. For the most part miners don't need to contract much when set up anyway. I have a mining group that when it was used never even docked. They all interacted with the orca and the hauler did the rest. If you're running into hangar item limits you're probably experienced enough to not worry about wars too much but can still benefit from alts remaining in NPC corps, and assets in space require defense so one hopes that when you put it up you already decided to fight back in a war.

What utter rubbish..

As things stand with the wardec system anyone can get dragged in when they just wardec any corp they can find, either by going through the office list in a station, or simply pressing info on character and deccing the corp they are in, for no other reason than "content" and "targets"

Sometimes it may be a local issue, but in 99.9% of cases it's very doubtful whether that's the case nowadays.

you form an opinion and give advice without knowing the full facts. pretty much like most posts you make lucas.

I'm getting really fed up with trolls turning whole threads into their own personal play ground.

You have added nothing to this thread apart from blatant personal attacks on other posters because you disagree with their advice..

Well it's up to the original poster to decide what is or isn't good advice that pertains to him, not you.

You should look at what you just wrote, your sentence is incomplete and you said Lucas instead of Dracvlad.

My reply was based on asking for the key facts, blanket war decker or not, and whether his corp had given an expensive kill or keeps bleeding kills to them, it is not rocket science, blanket war decs are dumb and deserve a dumb response.

My last war dec was silly, I operated within my envelope and waited to see if they would come for me, they did but it was a seriously lame attempt with a noob character, I was half tempted to let them point me, but it was so contrived it was not really worth doing, after all the best way to defeat them is to deny them any content.

For example one of the HTFU posters asked for a quote to go after me and the mercs refused, because I was not worth it, which really means I was too experienced, too rich and knew how to avoid and bore them to death and I had the ability to annoy and get kills on them if I wanted to. Which gets into other questions, the OP may have the need to buy plex, I don't which makes him more vulnerable, he might have stuff in space, I don't, he might do things routinely that make him more vulnerable, I do not, I play Eve to be hard to kill. Each person is different and what works for me may not work for him because his drivers and abilities are likely different.

Does that help in your understanding?

You can disagree all you want, but that's not what you're doing. You're just losing your mind because someone suggested something you don't like. You've not yet explained why removing yourself from a wardec isn't a solution to an unwanted wardec. And yes, you are a troll. Read your comments back objectively.

That's the great thing about this advice, I don't need the full facts. The OP can take the advice, see how it would apply to his personal situation then decide if it's a viable solution. Even better, someone else with the same question can look in here, see that same bit of advice and see if they can apply it to themselves. It wouldn't be much good if when someone asked for help all the replies were "check pm". The great thing about an open forum is it allows people not involved in the conversation to reference the material.

You are upset, but your issue here is that you are blaming people for not standing up and fighting, what have they got to fight for, what benefit do they have for fighting, what are they doing in hisec in the first place. In any case if you look at the killboards of blanket war deckers you will find the majority of kills are on the stupid people in 0.0 alliances. What you are worried about has already happened. There is very little worth war decking left in hisec. And many people would be quite happy to see war deckers like the blanket ones get bored and de-sub, having said that I have noticed quite a few war dec characters have gone to lowsec and 0.0. Which is a good thing...

EDIT Go and look at VMG's killboard, its a good example, and then look at Jennifer en Marland kicking ass in a Daredevil, great stuff.

That happened before the watch list was removed.

but it became the modus operandi overnight whereas previously it was (and still is) a laughably lazy tactic that only a handfull practiced at a time

we have been over and over and over this with you Ad nauseam

Yes we have a different opinion, I was keeping a close eye on war dec entities for some time, and I noticed that there was more people doing hub and pipe camping. The change to pipe and hub camping was largely occuring because there was less people operating in a noob way in hisec and also due to the push by certain war dec entities to be the biggest in hisec, in which having lots of targets is the key part to keep their players occupied.

That some players like yourself stopped hunnting and killing after the watch list changes is understandable, but the shift was already in place.

You were a merc focussed on your war decs, I was analysing killboards of the major war deccers and watching them operating, I know what I saw.