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927 Combat Roam, Ships & Ordnance Supplied!

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Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-09-16 01:20:00 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Pretty much everything right.

My cute, redheaded friend has already said the right of it. None of the nullsec groups are able to achieve such a goal.

Unlike Arrendis, I, on the other hand, would be amused at you attempt to kill the Empress. I am sure her Majesty would enjoy the fireworks show.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.

Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2016-09-16 01:21:14 UTC
Why shoot for capsuleers loyalists?
Open fire on the Imperial Navy.
CONCORD will not be able declare you a criminal, as it is not in their jurisdiction. TwistedTwisted
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2016-09-16 01:25:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov Jr
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Pretty much everything right.

My cute, redheaded friend has already said the right of it. None of the nullsec groups are able to achieve such a goal.

Unlike Arrendis, I, on the other hand, would be amused at you attempt to kill the Empress. I am sure her Majesty would enjoy the fireworks show.


Murder Jamyl Sarum for you, too, it was funny Question
What you did not protect her, if you are confident in yourself Question
Just because drifters are not interested in your fake Empress Question
Well then rejoice for this fact, that is not a threat drifters Empire.

Very interesting your story.
You pretend that you are Amarrian, but it is not so.
Many of the events in August 117 defected to the side of the Empire. For participation in the Succession.
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2016-09-16 01:35:41 UTC
Vollhov Jr wrote:
Why shoot for capsuleers loyalists?
Open fire on the Imperial Navy.
CONCORD will not be able declare you a criminal, as it is not in their jurisdiction. TwistedTwisted


Aaaand achieve nothing.

There will be Navy supercapitals on the field, I'm sure. That means there will be Navy Apostles on the field.

That means that unless you're just popping frigates with a horde of Thrashers, you won't do more than scratch your target's paint.

Any time triage is on the field - especially now, with the new hulls - you will not break the reps with a few dozen disposable ships unless you can alpha the target. If you're set up for alphastrikes, you sacrifice the ability to shoot at a second target before the nearest Aeon hits you with warp disruption burst projector (and if you think the Imperial Navy can't use its area-denial weaponry in high-sec, you're more of an idiot than any of us could suspect), another hits you with target illiumination burst projector, and the bombers light up your entire fleet and turn you to ash.
Loai Qerl
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2016-09-16 01:50:27 UTC
I think this might properly be understood as a horrible and stupid distraction and that people should more rightly look to the market for opportunistic cornering runs on resources that aren't involved in suiting up for being blapped a lot by holy Amarr martyrs ho on that day above all will be keen for it.

What I mean is--things that are critical to building things that don't blap Amarr ships? Invest in those now.
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2016-09-16 01:50:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov Jr
Arrendis wrote:
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I thought about it and has decided.
You're right.
It's useless. In this world you can not influence events. As it was in the past and as it will be in the future date.
I'm going to cancel all agreements on 27 September. Is a waste money and effort.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2016-09-16 03:09:21 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Not ALL Minmatar, Pilot Tuulinen. Personally I have no particular desire to go into Amarrian high sec and be hounded by their navy due to my standings nor make myself a target of their roaming militia on their home field.

Let the imperials have their day and enjoy themselves. Besides, there are plenty of easily accessible targets to be hunted in the war zone.

Precise assessment. As Arrendis has said, you'd get exactly one shot to make it anything other than a futile gesture.

I can't comment on her numbers. I prefer engagements that are actually winnable.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2016-09-16 03:17:04 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I can't comment on her numbers. I prefer engagements that are actually winnable.


So do I. But the key to winning the unwinnable engagement is knowing why you shouldn't.
Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#29 - 2016-09-16 09:19:06 UTC
Felise Selunix wrote:


I cried at the beauty of this. Just real pro-level stuff. It'll probably fall on deaf ears as to it's intended target, but from the bottom of my heart as someone who's dealing with logistics on a much smaller scale, this is gorgeous.


In an earlier thread, you implied that any fool who could organise a dinner party could understand logistics. On the simplest of levels, it's a reasonable intuition.

Director Arrendis however, demonstrates the truth of the ancient Gallente saying: "The amateurs discuss tactics. The professionals study logistics."

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Elmund Egivand
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
#30 - 2016-09-16 09:25:22 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Wonder which single ship his roam is going to target before Concord swoops in to restore order?

What is it with Minmatar and losing huge fleets in Amarrian high security space?


Hot heads and zero sense, my man. It seems that some of us Matari gunslingers learnt absolutely nothing from Colelie.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
Local Is Primary
#31 - 2016-09-16 11:06:03 UTC
Noted. We will be ready.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Desiderya
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2016-09-16 11:50:15 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Terrorists usually aren't this dumb...


That's what makes them different from Freedom Fighters.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Felise Selunix
Keyholder Investment Group
#33 - 2016-09-16 12:54:36 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Felise Selunix wrote:


I cried at the beauty of this. Just real pro-level stuff. It'll probably fall on deaf ears as to it's intended target, but from the bottom of my heart as someone who's dealing with logistics on a much smaller scale, this is gorgeous.


In an earlier thread, you implied that any fool who could organise a dinner party could understand logistics. On the simplest of levels, it's a reasonable intuition.

Director Arrendis however, demonstrates the truth of the ancient Gallente saying: "The amateurs discuss tactics. The professionals study logistics."


True that. I thought of a saying in my clan that pops up whenever some young upstart starts crowing that they're ready to run a whole store: "You've got what it takes to run any till anywhere dear, except for mine."
Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
#34 - 2016-09-16 13:08:50 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
To all interested freedom loving capsuleers:

We are planning a roam and attack event for the 27th of this month.

Fully fit ships and ordinance will be provided at no cost to you.

We strongly urge that your implants be of little cost because they are likely to be lost.

Our activities will result in you losing some security standings so be forewarned.

Sign up and positioning yourself in the designated staging system in advance of 09/27 is mandatory for participation.

Location and time will be announced to respondents.

For security purposes specific details shall not be posted here on IGS.

For more information or to ask questions please contact Matar Ronin via mail.



Stay out of this Tribal. Even with the disgraceful pretender parading as Empress you and your ilk have no chance to achieve anything.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#35 - 2016-09-16 13:25:00 UTC
Pretty sure your fight doesn't have a chance either.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#36 - 2016-09-16 14:51:11 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Terrorists usually aren't this dumb...

Terrorists are inefficient amateur forces, trying only to cause havoc and fear. They often attack insignificant civilian installation instead of going for meaningful targets.

But if you have a terrorist who is also a primitive tribal, Ms. Ruil, you can have quite unintelligent result of such a fusion.

In any way, terrorists are and never were a serious issue. All their attempts are in vain, since whatever they will destroy, it won't affect neither our resolve nor our ability to crush them down. And shall they decide to meet (or most probably will meet by mistake) our regular forces - they will be done with.

Glory to the State!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2016-09-16 15:03:28 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Director Arrendis


Please, just 'Arrendis'. The only reason I even mentioned my position was to forestall Matar Ronin's inevitable 'what does a line Goon know, anyway?' like he tried to pull in the other discussion.


Desiderya wrote:
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Terrorists usually aren't this dumb...


That's what makes them different from Freedom Fighters.


Nah, that's just a question of which side you're on. Successful terrorists, though... they're not this dumb. Which explains much about Ronin...
Desiderya
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2016-09-16 15:06:41 UTC
Probably - freedom fighters were just an example. There are many Rebels With a Cause. They tend to try and go for brownie points before doing something whereas terrorists tend to collect their questionable laurels afterwards.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#39 - 2016-09-16 15:19:00 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
Probably - freedom fighters were just an example. There are many Rebels With a Cause. They tend to try and go for brownie points before doing something whereas terrorists tend to collect their questionable laurels afterwards.

Excuse me, but the concept of chaos fighters is straightforward dumb. I would set them even below terrorists, who at least know what they are doing. And having a chaos as a cause is basically equal to having no cause.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2016-09-16 16:18:21 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Desiderya wrote:
Probably - freedom fighters were just an example. There are many Rebels With a Cause. They tend to try and go for brownie points before doing something whereas terrorists tend to collect their questionable laurels afterwards.

Excuse me, but the concept of chaos fighters is straightforward dumb. I would set them even below terrorists, who at least know what they are doing. And having a chaos as a cause is basically equal to having no cause.


You really need to stop equating 'freedom' with 'chaos'. Freedom is self-determination, nothing more. It is exactly what the Caldari people sought when the CEP declared the foundation of the Caldari State and their secession from the Gallente Federation.