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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#281 - 2016-10-20 06:25:27 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Uh...... Ya, have him duel a guy who will torture and kill his crew...... Good fighter or not that's not exactly the best of candidates for getting some trigger time as a Matari.


Just undock a frigate and fly solo.

To be very good at it, go hang around in a high traffic system and score a multi-kill in a single frigate without links.

Which is...something I still can't do, unfortunately.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Matar Ronin
#282 - 2016-10-20 09:09:51 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
So, Mr. Ronin?

If you're really so eager for a duel, I'm game. Basic frigates, no pirate implants, no boosters, no links. We'll need to arrange time and place.

Be aware: I'm at best an indifferent duelist (I'd say "decent" but I'm out of practice). If you can't beat me, you have little chance against Ms. Kim.

If you want a series of duels (which is excellent training), come by Mehatoor and install some basic combat frigates at the 24IC station. It's Nauplius's home station, and he's actually good (at dueling). On my best day I can trade losses with him. He's probably a decent person to measure yourself against if you're preparing to fight Ms. Kim.
Perhaps kim should visit your friend and or train with you. Seems like she is the one afraid to fight. Are you such an enabler you are willing to fight the fights she fears?

But if your challenge is in earnest we certainly can discuss weapon types, be forewarned I don't prefer Frigates. Once I have dispatched kim if you still have a taste for action I will try to find a spot for you on my busy schedule or one of my industrial associates will handle you if I am unavailable.

However I'd insist on an advance agreement that warping away once combat has begun would indicate a complete loss of personal honor, I or my associate wouldn't like to have to chase someone down as they attempted to flee. It also has the advantage of making a tackle redundant, the fight is to the death of one pilot or the other.

To save their crew a pilot can eject when deep in structure, and the other pilot must agree to not destroy the abandoned ship. This is a matter between capsuleers and not their baseline crews if possible. Please note when you eject you must remain on scene in your pod until death is delivered. Any attempt to leave the duel area will result in a total loss of personal honor.

To be clear it will be a one versus one fight.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#283 - 2016-10-20 10:14:54 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

Well, would you consider me a troll? I'll admit I've had my fair share(saying fair share is probably pushing it but anyways) of stupid comments and yet none of those people attack me to the degree they've attacked you. I'm a liar and a troll supposedly but when I'm called out on something (almost always something that was an honest mistake, I don't attack people here I have guns and missiles for that) it's never "well, your lying" it's "sorry, I was mistaken" or something similar.

I'd like to point out, that I wasn't referencing conflicts that rose because of my mistake and when people pointed that out, since in majority of the cases they are closed just like you have mentioned, with me bringing apologies. With rare cases they were extended before I was pointed or realized that I blunted.

I again emphasize that conflicts that I am actively participating are caused not by me, but by the offenders against whom I fight. That means I am not going to say "sorry, I was mistaken", if someone like Saissore lying knight would start claiming I flied a dominix and I objected her. I won't say it to Priano who openly was calling me a madwoman or a Provist, whom I never was. Or take for example this topic starter, Matar Ronin, that absent-mindedly keeps bleating that I am a 'coward' after I clearly said him I'd fight him.

When I am wrong, I will bring apologies. But when they are wrong, I'll just send them to kiss my afterburner.

Also, saying lie about me makes them liars. That's a fact. And when I call them liars - it isn't insult, just a warning to others to disregard their words.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Merchant Rova
Tidal Lock
Vapor-Lock
#284 - 2016-10-20 13:00:18 UTC
Bob above! You guys really can't let a thread go! Take it somewhere else...

RIP Merchant Rova's cheekbones, YC118-YC119. Forever in our hearts.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#285 - 2016-10-20 13:02:56 UTC
You know I have to admit, in recent times especially you have apologized for some things. I say "in recent times especially" since those are the ones that stand out in my head strongly. Call it a criticism but you do seem to take liberty in calling what clearly is an opinion to everyone else as some bold faced lie. For instance, that last sentence is my opinion, if people agree with it it's their opinion as well. Is my opinion relevant to anything in the grand scale of things? Is yours or anyone elses? Nope, so why waste your time defending it? You do enough to prove my opinion wrong in your actions, not with addressing it head on since addressing it head on people will see it to be a fact. More people assume guilt in the person who needs to defend themselves in 100 words as opposed to laughing it off.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#286 - 2016-10-20 13:44:40 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Uh...... Ya, have him duel a guy who will torture and kill his crew...... Good fighter or not that's not exactly the best of candidates for getting some trigger time as a Matari.


The odds of a frigate crew surviving a loss are extremely low anyway, Ms. Vess. ... Also, for some reason, Mr. Nauplius hasn't been taking or buying prisoners. (Which is a good thing.)

Also, also, the station's normally right there. Duels tend to take place on the undock.

Arrendis wrote:
On the other hand, it'd be an amusing thing to sit a couple hundred Ishtars off the undock with sentries assisted to a number of instalocking interceptors, and just remind both parties that honor duelling is a damned stupid way to waste money, lives, and resources.


It's highsec, Ms. Arrendis. A border system to the war zone, a staging ground.

Unless you know some trick I don't, I'm not the one who'd be wasting stuff.

To some degree, I do agree with you: dueling artificially limits the rules, which, I don't particularly care for. But-- well, it seems Mr. Ronin considers himself a duelist. So we might as well give him a chance to either demonstrate it or find out where and how he's falling short.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#287 - 2016-10-20 13:56:36 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
You know I have to admit, in recent times especially you have apologized for some things. I say "in recent times especially" since those are the ones that stand out in my head strongly. Call it a criticism but you do seem to take liberty in calling what clearly is an opinion to everyone else as some bold faced lie. For instance, that last sentence is my opinion, if people agree with it it's their opinion as well. Is my opinion relevant to anything in the grand scale of things? Is yours or anyone elses? Nope, so why waste your time defending it? You do enough to prove my opinion wrong in your actions, not with addressing it head on since addressing it head on people will see it to be a fact. More people assume guilt in the person who needs to defend themselves in 100 words as opposed to laughing it off.

Opinions, guilts, actions. A lot of things that mean little. I am just a soldier of the State, and if there will be some my guilt, it will be investigated by our personnel, not some trolls in IGS. And if there will be something I will need to defend myself, I will be defending myself in front of lawful authorities, but not random something on GalNet.

What I do care about and what I do defend and will stand for, it is Honor of Caldari Uniform and Names of Caldari Soldiers fallen defending our State from Sansha and Gallente invaders. It is not me, who is important, but They. Names of Heroes, who passed doing their duty, or millions of simple Protectorate soldiers who met their end even defending some Maker-forsaken military outpost in some backwater system. Or standing against Sansha Headquarter invading fleets with small wing. We can't remember and list names of everyone who dedicated their lives to the State, who gave their lives for Caldari, even if protecting just a couple of colonists from Gallente death squad.

But we have this uniform and these colors. Thise simple cloth embodies lives of every brave man and woman, who fought in this war. The State Protectorate was the first of CONCORD-allowed militas to actually win the war and held all the systems secure from gallente presence for several months. We were the first, and we hold the dominance for the longest time. We have something to be proud for. And we have something to be grateful to all perished in this war for, because we wouldn't be able to achieve it without their help and without their sacrifices. We, Caldari, value Honor greater than our lives. Because it means more than just life, just a body. Honor lives even after your death, and now while I defend our collective Honor I know that after I will pass and won't be with you anymore, some other Protectorate soldier will make a stand for our uniform, maybe even without knowing my name, just like I wouldn't know his.

We walk into fight knowing this, and we walk into death knowing this. We rise our banners, knowing that others will take it from our cold hands. We fight and we die for Honor, just like we fight and die for the State. Becasue who are we without it?...

Just shadows and dust.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#288 - 2016-10-20 13:56:44 UTC
Well that's reassuring, and ya that's true that it more than likely would be near a station. I would think in a duel situation, crew deaths would be less, it's not like you would have non essential crew aboard and it's alot more obvious when your ship is going to be destroyed than in a regular combat situation.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#289 - 2016-10-20 14:08:01 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
It's highsec, Ms. Arrendis. A border system to the war zone, a staging ground.

Unless you know some trick I don't, I'm not the one who'd be wasting stuff.


What, you think us null-dwellers can't file wardecs?

It's a funny thing, the way all the high-sec wardeccers scatter like the rats they are when a reasonable-sized fleet comes through.
xXuber-NitsheXx
#290 - 2016-10-20 14:13:50 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
You know I have to admit, in recent times especially you have apologized for some things. I say "in recent times especially" since those are the ones that stand out in my head strongly. Call it a criticism but you do seem to take liberty in calling what clearly is an opinion to everyone else as some bold faced lie. For instance, that last sentence is my opinion, if people agree with it it's their opinion as well. Is my opinion relevant to anything in the grand scale of things? Is yours or anyone elses? Nope, so why waste your time defending it? You do enough to prove my opinion wrong in your actions, not with addressing it head on since addressing it head on people will see it to be a fact. More people assume guilt in the person who needs to defend themselves in 100 words as opposed to laughing it off.

Opinions, guilts, actions. A lot of things that mean little. I am just a soldier of the State, and if there will be some my guilt, it will be investigated by our personnel, not some trolls in IGS. And if there will be something I will need to defend myself, I will be defending myself in front of lawful authorities, but not random something on GalNet.

What I do care about and what I do defend and will stand for, it is Honor of Caldari Uniform and Names of Caldari Soldiers fallen defending our State from Sansha and Gallente invaders. It is not me, who is important, but They. Names of Heroes, who passed doing their duty, or millions of simple Protectorate soldiers who met their end even defending some Maker-forsaken military outpost in some backwater system. Or standing against Sansha Headquarter invading fleets with small wing. We can't remember and list names of everyone who dedicated their lives to the State, who gave their lives for Caldari, even if protecting just a couple of colonists from Gallente death squad.

But we have this uniform and these colors. Thise simple cloth embodies lives of every brave man and woman, who fought in this war. The State Protectorate was the first of CONCORD-allowed militas to actually win the war and held all the systems secure from gallente presence for several months. We were the first, and we hold the dominance for the longest time. We have something to be proud for. And we have something to be grateful to all perished in this war for, because we wouldn't be able to achieve it without their help and without their sacrifices. We, Caldari, value Honor greater than our lives. Because it means more than just life, just a body. Honor lives even after your death, and now while I defend our collective Honor I know that after I will pass and won't be with you anymore, some other Protectorate soldier will make a stand for our uniform, maybe even without knowing my name, just like I wouldn't know his.

We walk into fight knowing this, and we walk into death knowing this. We rise our banners, knowing that others will take it from our cold hands. We fight and we die for Honor, just like we fight and die for the State. Becasue who are we without it?...

Just shadows and dust.


I stood to attention when I read that Diana. Big hard Caldari men don't usually shed a tear, your patriotism makes me all emotional with pride.

We salute you Commander Kim. o7

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS. Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#291 - 2016-10-20 14:14:27 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
You know I have to admit, in recent times especially you have apologized for some things. I say "in recent times especially" since those are the ones that stand out in my head strongly. Call it a criticism but you do seem to take liberty in calling what clearly is an opinion to everyone else as some bold faced lie. For instance, that last sentence is my opinion, if people agree with it it's their opinion as well. Is my opinion relevant to anything in the grand scale of things? Is yours or anyone elses? Nope, so why waste your time defending it? You do enough to prove my opinion wrong in your actions, not with addressing it head on since addressing it head on people will see it to be a fact. More people assume guilt in the person who needs to defend themselves in 100 words as opposed to laughing it off.

Opinions, guilts, actions. A lot of things that mean little. I am just a soldier of the State, and if there will be some my guilt, it will be investigated by our personnel, not some trolls in IGS. And if there will be something I will need to defend myself, I will be defending myself in front of lawful authorities, but not random something on GalNet.

What I do care about and what I do defend and will stand for, it is Honor of Caldari Uniform and Names of Caldari Soldiers fallen defending our State from Sansha and Gallente invaders. It is not me, who is important, but They. Names of Heroes, who passed doing their duty, or millions of simple Protectorate soldiers who met their end even defending some Maker-forsaken military outpost in some backwater system. Or standing against Sansha Headquarter invading fleets with small wing. We can't remember and list names of everyone who dedicated their lives to the State, who gave their lives for Caldari, even if protecting just a couple of colonists from Gallente death squad.

But we have this uniform and these colors. Thise simple cloth embodies lives of every brave man and woman, who fought in this war. The State Protectorate was the first of CONCORD-allowed militas to actually win the war and held all the systems secure from gallente presence for several months. We were the first, and we hold the dominance for the longest time. We have something to be proud for. And we have something to be grateful to all perished in this war for, because we wouldn't be able to achieve it without their help and without their sacrifices. We, Caldari, value Honor greater than our lives. Because it means more than just life, just a body. Honor lives even after your death, and now while I defend our collective Honor I know that after I will pass and won't be with you anymore, some other Protectorate soldier will make a stand for our uniform, maybe even without knowing my name, just like I wouldn't know his.

We walk into fight knowing this, and we walk into death knowing this. We rise our banners, knowing that others will take it from our cold hands. We fight and we die for Honor, just like we fight and die for the State. Becasue who are we without it?...

Just shadows and dust.

You won't hear me say anything bad about that, it's a respectable position. Words aren't missiles. Nobody ever became a serial killer by word alone. Is it really honoring your dead by needlessly taking pointless fights with morons who will just have it go in one ear and out the other? My father once told me "Words don't change minds, bullets do." Action speaks louder than words, if your actions only surmount to words you've done nothing of note.
xXuber-NitsheXx
#292 - 2016-10-20 14:24:29 UTC
Kim's KB speaks volumes, who is left with vapid rhetoric then?

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS. Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#293 - 2016-10-20 14:31:59 UTC
All those recons helping her out really does tell a story.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#294 - 2016-10-20 14:47:58 UTC
I always thought Pandemic Legion to be the Alliance with big letter 'A'. But now as I see what sort of people they started to allow into their ranks, I can think about them only as alliance with small letter 'a'.

Reputation crashed, but what to expect, for everything there's God Will. Long live the Tuskers.

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Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#295 - 2016-10-20 20:50:57 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
What, you think us null-dwellers can't file wardecs?

It's a funny thing, the way all the high-sec wardeccers scatter like the rats they are when a reasonable-sized fleet comes through.


So, Ms. Arrendis, I was trying to decide how I should respond to this, but then I noticed I missed this other thing from earlier:

Matar Ronin wrote:
Perhaps kim should visit your friend and or train with you. Seems like she is the one afraid to fight. Are you such an enabler you are willing to fight the fights she fears?

But if your challenge is in earnest we certainly can discuss weapon types, be forewarned I don't prefer Frigates. Once I have dispatched kim if you still have a taste for action I will try to find a spot for you on my busy schedule or one of my industrial associates will handle you if I am unavailable.

However I'd insist on an advance agreement that warping away once combat has begun would indicate a complete loss of personal honor, I or my associate wouldn't like to have to chase someone down as they attempted to flee. It also has the advantage of making a tackle redundant, the fight is to the death of one pilot or the other.

To save their crew a pilot can eject when deep in structure, and the other pilot must agree to not destroy the abandoned ship. This is a matter between capsuleers and not their baseline crews if possible. Please note when you eject you must remain on scene in your pod until death is delivered. Any attempt to leave the duel area will result in a total loss of personal honor.

To be clear it will be a one versus one fight.


*sigh*

... so probably never mind.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#296 - 2016-10-20 23:14:38 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
I always thought Pandemic Legion to be the Alliance with big letter 'A'. But now as I see what sort of people they started to allow into their ranks, I can think about them only as alliance with small letter 'a'.

Reputation crashed, but what to expect, for everything there's God Will. Long live the Tuskers.
How will the legion survive without the approval of Diana's link pilot.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#297 - 2016-10-20 23:21:14 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Luna Hanaya wrote:
I always thought Pandemic Legion to be the Alliance with big letter 'A'. But now as I see what sort of people they started to allow into their ranks, I can think about them only as alliance with small letter 'a'.

Reputation crashed, but what to expect, for everything there's God Will. Long live the Tuskers.
How will the legion survive without the approval of Diana's link pilot.

Haven't you been with them for a while now?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#298 - 2016-10-21 08:51:01 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Luna Hanaya wrote:
I always thought Pandemic Legion to be the Alliance with big letter 'A'. But now as I see what sort of people they started to allow into their ranks, I can think about them only as alliance with small letter 'a'.

Reputation crashed, but what to expect, for everything there's God Will. Long live the Tuskers.
How will the legion survive without the approval of Diana's link pilot.

Haven't you been with them for a while now?

Better ask her, why this tribal brings out my name in argument with Empire citizen. That's quite unhealthy obsession even for a troll like her.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Matar Ronin
#299 - 2016-10-21 11:10:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Matar Ronin
To be honest cowardly tin soldier kim spoke "well" above here in my thread.
It was a 'well' crafted diversionary tactic to switch attention from the fact she is afraid to say where I can find her for an honorary duel or two.

If honor is something that doesn't fit in her uniform I will use tracking agents to find and then eventually gank her.

kim I gave you a chance to put honorable action behind your words, you failed.

kim you clearly don't have the honor to back up your boasts and face me in a duel, so you are no longer a worthy duel opponent, you are hereby lowered to the status of common garden variety vermin.

I'll find you and i'll follow you and from time to time i'll gank you. You just won't know upon which day because you lacked the courage to face me on the terms you set.

You are a disgrace kim to the many fine Caldari who risk and give their lives for the State they admire.
Like tibus heth you will one day be cast out and scorned by the Caldari State and labelled something as bad as the terrorist he was.

One thing the Caldari State is very keen upon promoting is reward for those who merit it, public cowardice is something for which you are now the poster child of. I trust the Caldari State will eventually find out having a notorious coward in their state protectorate uniform totally lacks merit.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#300 - 2016-10-21 11:44:21 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
To be honest cowardly tin soldier kim spoke "well" above here in my thread.
It was a 'well' crafted diversionary tactic to switch attention from the fact she is afraid to say where I can find her for an honorary duel or two.

If honor is something that doesn't fit in her uniform I will use tracking agents to find and then eventually gank her.

kim I gave you a chance to put honorable action behind your words, you failed.

kim you clearly don't have the honor to back up your boasts and face me in a duel, so you are no longer a worthy duel opponent, you are hereby lowered to the status of common garden variety vermin.

I'll find you and i'll follow you and from time to time i'll gank you. You just won't know upon which day because you lacked the courage to face me on the terms you set.

You are a disgrace kim to the many fine Caldari who risk and give their lives for the State they admire.
Like tibus heth you will one day be cast out and scorned by the Caldari State and labelled something as bad as the terrorist he was.

One thing the Caldari State is very keen upon promoting is reward for those who merit it, public cowardice is something for which you are now the poster child of. I trust the Caldari State will eventually find out having a notorious coward in their state protectorate uniform totally lacks merit.

Can someone explain me, how Minmatar brain work. I mean, does it work at all? I am not going to adress even his delusions and lies about me, calling me "coward" and his empty words about claiming I could even be a "disgrace", insulting our fallen soldier and making up something like I "lacked courage", or eve like I would set any "terms" for him (which I obviously didn't taking into account dishonorable nature of this person).

But really, how for the sake of all the Universe, all the suns, planets and even moon, how this organism couldn't able to read or hear that I repeated him several times that I would fight him would he dare to appear? How is this even possible? Does he have eyes? Does he have ears? Or he is just a machine that keeps spewing out insults about Caldari disregarding what happens around him?

Excuse me, but this is beyond my understanding.

I would ask him to shut up kindly until he actually will dare to "follow and gank me", as he "promised". But I don't think he would listen to this either. Just like I am sure I will never see him in space anyway.

This is just getting tiresome. These tribals are annoying pests.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.