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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#241 - 2016-10-16 23:08:11 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:

and the avoidance of facts

Considering amount of lies and crap you put in your previous post about me, your inane attempt of pointing to facts to others looks at least laughable.

Matar Ronin wrote:
Now it would be nice if the cowardly Tin Soldier would just keep her poisonous mouth shut and out of my threads until she gained the spine to back up the garbage she spews by a fight with me a pilot fighting in something bigger then a frigate in her own backyard.


Lets just bring quick recap of your previous rant and I point on several of your lies, that are such obvious that make you look more like a clown who tries to make whole IGS to laugh at you than a real speaker who would like to present a point.

"cowardly Tin Soldier"
Directed at me? Cowardly? After I several times told you to came to fight?... Well, everyone saw that. And... "tin" soldier? We have two lies here. Further into same sentence.

her poisonous mouth
I point out just of facts, while you spew your hatred about us. Now, who is poisonous here? Not talking about that my actual mouth is absolutely not poisonous. I've just licked my lips and still alive.

until she gained the spine to back up
Unlike cowards like you, 'Matar', I can always back my words by facts and actions, I can defend them with weapons in my hands. I didn't see you in space so far for you to come to fight yet.

the garbage she spews
What I speak about is based on facts, which you, lying tribal, fail to comprehend. Thus making such a lies about me.

fighting in something bigger then a frigate
Everyone who have access to combat reports see what I fly. How you still keep degrading yourself with repeating your lie. Do you enjoy a reputation of incompetent ignorant?

in her own backyard
I have been killing enemies even in their home systems, even in their high security space. Again, easily verifiable through combat records.

Well, that's actually just 7 lies in a single sentence. Not just random sentence I took from your delusions to find as many lies as I could find, but just the first one you wrote. I am really not interested in continuing to disassemble your further sick hallucinations, since I believe that it is enough to stop at this moment, as my point has been already proven.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Matar Ronin
#242 - 2016-10-17 16:13:26 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:

and the avoidance of facts

Considering amount of lies and crap you put in your previous post about me, your inane attempt of pointing to facts to others looks at least laughable.

Matar Ronin wrote:
Now it would be nice if the cowardly Tin Soldier would just keep her poisonous mouth shut and out of my threads until she gained the spine to back up the garbage she spews by a fight with me a pilot fighting in something bigger then a frigate in her own backyard.


Lets just bring quick recap of your previous rant and I point on several of your lies, that are such obvious that make you look more like a clown who tries to make whole IGS to laugh at you than a real speaker who would like to present a point.

"cowardly Tin Soldier"
Directed at me? Cowardly? After I several times told you to came to fight?... Well, everyone saw that. And... "tin" soldier? We have two lies here. Further into same sentence.

her poisonous mouth
I point out just of facts, while you spew your hatred about us. Now, who is poisonous here? Not talking about that my actual mouth is absolutely not poisonous. I've just licked my lips and still alive.

until she gained the spine to back up
Unlike cowards like you, 'Matar', I can always back my words by facts and actions, I can defend them with weapons in my hands. I didn't see you in space so far for you to come to fight yet.

the garbage she spews
What I speak about is based on facts, which you, lying tribal, fail to comprehend. Thus making such a lies about me.

fighting in something bigger then a frigate
Everyone who have access to combat reports see what I fly. How you still keep degrading yourself with repeating your lie. Do you enjoy a reputation of incompetent ignorant?

in her own backyard
I have been killing enemies even in their home systems, even in their high security space. Again, easily verifiable through combat records.

Well, that's actually just 7 lies in a single sentence. Not just random sentence I took from your delusions to find as many lies as I could find, but just the first one you wrote. I am really not interested in continuing to disassemble your further sick hallucinations, since I believe that it is enough to stop at this moment, as my point has been already proven.
Do you deny saying that you are poisonous in the IGS chat because of the stuff you were drinking? Your complaints conflict with the words that come out of your own mouth.

kim you want to point to combat records but not forum logs that are dripping with your lies and cowardice. you are a fake phony tin soldier who has built a public persona on racism, intimidation, and lies.

You routinely say one thing and then spend weeks claiming to not have said it when it proves you were in your own make believe fantasy zone.

You claim to be a high ranking officer with honor, while you conspire to murder honorable members of the State.

You claim to be a former Caldari Marine and boast that your hands are weapons of death, yet tell a tale of how Gallente civilians kicked your butt in an alley, something that does not often happen to former Marines.

You proclaim to be a Soldier of the State yet you idolize a man the State declared a terrorist. You are just a whacko liar devoid of honor a pitiful hateful racist, you are not worthy of anything beyond pity.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#243 - 2016-10-17 16:28:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
The candle's burned down to a puddle, with the wick just barely keeping fed on little threads of wax that seem to be from some kind of candle for driving insects away.

Can we maybe just let this poor flame burn out already?
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#244 - 2016-10-17 16:32:04 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
The candle's burned down to a puddle, with the wick just barely keeping fed on little threads of wax that seem to be from some kind of candle for driving insects away.

Can we maybe just let this poor flame burn out already?

If the candle was supposed to keep insects away it failed....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Matar Ronin
#245 - 2016-10-17 17:04:38 UTC
The puddle is from the melted persona of the tin soldier, burned away by the flame of truth.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#246 - 2016-10-17 17:11:28 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
The puddle is from the melted persona of the tin soldier, burned away by the flame of truth.


You're not the first to go after her, Mr. Ronin. You won't be the last.

Please let's just let it die?
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#247 - 2016-10-17 17:11:29 UTC
Tin does have a rather low melting point. With all the hot air being blown in this thread he may be on to something....
Matar Ronin
#248 - 2016-10-17 17:20:22 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Matar Ronin wrote:
The puddle is from the melted persona of the tin soldier, burned away by the flame of truth.


You're not the first to go after her, Mr. Ronin. You won't be the last.

Please let's just let it die?
Pilot Jenneth it is a well known fact.
For evil to reign all that is required is for good people to do nothing.

That is the essence of your request, allow the racist liar to go unchallenged?
If she ranted against your new masters in the slavery cult I wonder would you be so accepting?


‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#249 - 2016-10-17 17:28:43 UTC
Before she... "Migrated" guess would be the right term, she was in Pyre, who DK spoke out against a few times, not to mention shot at while they were involved with Cal mil. That was before her time and I'm not going into specifics (honestly I don't care to and other "people" will feel compelled to defend it). She has been on that side. Unless I'm missing something.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#250 - 2016-10-17 19:16:30 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Before she... "Migrated" guess would be the right term, she was in Pyre, who DK spoke out against a few times, not to mention shot at while they were involved with Cal mil. That was before her time and I'm not going into specifics (honestly I don't care to and other "people" will feel compelled to defend it). She has been on that side. Unless I'm missing something.


Thank you for the kinda-sorta defense, Ms. Vess.

It's true I was with PY-RE, and I have worked with a lot of people who don't get along with her at all: Ali, Makoto Priano, others.

I don't think I've ever been on bad terms with her myself, though.

Ms. Kim and I haven't come to harsh words between ourselves more than once, I don't think, and that time was a misunderstanding, even though we disagree about maybe almost everything. I try to be just a little careful, because I know she's a badly wounded person.

(She and Mr. Ronin might have that in common, a little.)

I do get tired of watching people speak cruelly to her, as though she were just being stupid instead of someone deeply hurt. I've learned not to intervene for that reason only, though. It doesn't seem to help. Or maybe I just don't have the energy it would take.

I'm not asking if we can maybe stop this so much to protect her as because this thread's burned away everything interesting it was and everything interesting it turned into and it's now just ... kind of smoldering along and smelling awful.

Mr. Ronin and Ms. Kim have a personal stake, maybe, but ... it's not like their snarling at each other over the border is probably going to be resolved right here, whatever happens.

Maybe if the air clears a little someone might have something interesting to say.

(Did our conversation over Mr. Ephesianos's comments just plain disappear, Ms. Vess? I can't seem to find it.)
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#251 - 2016-10-17 19:41:18 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Before she... "Migrated" guess would be the right term, she was in Pyre, who DK spoke out against a few times, not to mention shot at while they were involved with Cal mil. That was before her time and I'm not going into specifics (honestly I don't care to and other "people" will feel compelled to defend it). She has been on that side. Unless I'm missing something.


Thank you for the kinda-sorta defense, Ms. Vess.

It's true I was with PY-RE, and I have worked with a lot of people who don't get along with her at all: Ali, Makoto Priano, others.

I don't think I've ever been on bad terms with her myself, though.

Ms. Kim and I haven't come to harsh words between ourselves more than once, I don't think, and that time was a misunderstanding, even though we disagree about maybe almost everything. I try to be just a little careful, because I know she's a badly wounded person.

(She and Mr. Ronin might have that in common, a little.)

I do get tired of watching people speak cruelly to her, as though she were just being stupid instead of someone deeply hurt. I've learned not to intervene for that reason only, though. It doesn't seem to help. Or maybe I just don't have the energy it would take.

I'm not asking if we can maybe stop this so much to protect her as because this thread's burned away everything interesting it was and everything interesting it turned into and it's now just ... kind of smoldering along and smelling awful.

Mr. Ronin and Ms. Kim have a personal stake, maybe, but ... it's not like their snarling at each other over the border is probably going to be resolved right here, whatever happens.

Maybe if the air clears a little someone might have something interesting to say.

(Did our conversation over Mr. Ephesianos's comments just plain disappear, Ms. Vess? I can't seem to find it.)


My hope is he sees what I would hope is a friendly face trying to defuse the situation before it becomes a normal "DK vs the cluster" (really I'm referring to Ronin on this one but I think everyone would understand what I'm talking about) situation. Maybe Kim wouldn't be so trigger happy on the IGS if she had such a luxury. Consider it an experiment or whatever, I prefer to call it standing up for distant kin.

I don't know much on where Kim's disconnects with civil conversation have arisen from, though I could see that being a possibility hearing it said. Still doesn't stop her words aimed our way for no specific reason but then again my enemies aren't faceless to me. To her? I have my opinions on that but won't cause the backlash from saying them.

I would say I hope this whole thing dies here but it won't. It will simply spill into other threads like my second duel challenge and other ones that have faded away. Let's hope that changes.

As far as that last thread, I think it got prematurely got deleted, which is a shame since it was starting to become somewhat civil. Oh well, any discussions I'm more than happy to have in any medium.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#252 - 2016-10-17 19:49:18 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

My hope is he sees what I would hope is a friendly face trying to defuse the situation before it becomes a normal "DK vs the cluster" (really I'm referring to Ronin on this one but I think everyone would understand what I'm talking about) situation. Maybe Kim wouldn't be so trigger happy on the IGS if she had such a luxury. Consider it an experiment or whatever, I prefer to call it standing up for distant kin.

It doesn't look like "DK vs cluster". It looks like Ronin vs DK. No, not even like this. It looks more like Ronin vs sanity. But I understand your desire to represent it as DK vs cluster, as I know you want to make her look worse than she is just because she bested you. Let it go, pray, and let the God forgive you.

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Matar Ronin
#253 - 2016-10-17 19:51:40 UTC
Defending the "wounded" racist liar is perhaps noble pilot Jenneth, I prefer not to be another enabler of the lies she tries to propagate on a daily basis.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#254 - 2016-10-17 19:58:04 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

My hope is he sees what I would hope is a friendly face trying to defuse the situation before it becomes a normal "DK vs the cluster" (really I'm referring to Ronin on this one but I think everyone would understand what I'm talking about) situation. Maybe Kim wouldn't be so trigger happy on the IGS if she had such a luxury. Consider it an experiment or whatever, I prefer to call it standing up for distant kin.

It doesn't look like "DK vs cluster". It looks like Ronin vs DK. No, not even like this. It looks more like Ronin vs sanity. But I understand your desire to represent it as DK vs cluster, as I know you want to make her look worse than she is just because she bested you. Let it go, pray, and let the God forgive you.

I was referring to past times where litterally 4+ people have come to attack her views, to the "ignore Diana Kim" threads, ect. I'm talking about not seeing Ronin devolve into such things via unknowingly making those actions feasible to the rest of us.
Matar Ronin
#255 - 2016-10-17 19:58:20 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:

My hope is he sees what I would hope is a friendly face trying to defuse the situation before it becomes a normal "DK vs the cluster" (really I'm referring to Ronin on this one but I think everyone would understand what I'm talking about) situation. Maybe Kim wouldn't be so trigger happy on the IGS if she had such a luxury. Consider it an experiment or whatever, I prefer to call it standing up for distant kin.

It doesn't look like "DK vs cluster". It looks like Ronin vs DK. No, not even like this. It looks more like Ronin vs sanity. But I understand your desire to represent it as DK vs cluster, as I know you want to make her look worse than she is just because she bested you. Let it go, pray, and let the God forgive you.
Lunatic, the Tin Soldier's loyal lap dog showed up to snarl and yip.

Lunatic it is clear you want attention, you want to model yourself after dim kim, it will not work because you are not at all relevant or interesting. Just kindly crawl away.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#256 - 2016-10-17 20:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
To be fair, probably about 80% of the time, speaking out against PY-RE was really speaking out against myself.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#257 - 2016-10-17 20:12:51 UTC
Ffs, can we kill this thread already?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Matar Ronin
#258 - 2016-10-17 20:23:31 UTC
oh hello again, what do you think of the new pink skins for ships?

have you purchased one yet?

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#259 - 2016-10-17 20:31:26 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Ffs, can we kill this thread already?


It is an amazing thread though.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#260 - 2016-10-17 20:32:44 UTC
I want a pink wolf! That or rifter, ya I'd totally rock that....