EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello.

Today I was banned from the citadel "public refinery".
There were 1 billion of ore that I mined,
and I cannot even touch them now.
I tried some alternative ways to get reach but it looks like the citadel is completely private now, so that nobody can dock there.

Of course it can be mistake of owner,
and it's my fault trusting "public" citadel.
The owner may response for my message later.

However, If the owner REALLY intend to kidnap my assets, (he already ignored my invitation 3 times)
I'm willing to challenge destroying the citadel.

Assuming I can manage 12 accounts,
Can I definitely destroy it?
Or does It depend on what defender do?

Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks.

Unfortunately nobody can dock there currently....
My new alt and local player cannot dock there and even cannot see the citadel in overview.

I calculated it again, there are 1.8 bil isk of ore in the citadel.
If citadel can be destroyed with 2~3bil isk, I'm willing to invest that money, for revenge and fun.

hi there, im exactly the sort of horrible **** you want to talk to about this.
an undefended astrahouse (im assuming thats what this is, correct me if im wrong now) will burn.<-------emphasis on the period.

if its entirely undefended you can pop one solo, itl take a while granted but its possible
if its manned then you need logi on hand , 2-3 guardians should do it + however much dps you need to burn it in reasonable timeframe.
if its manned and defended then the owner will need slapping about beforehand and that might inflate the cost somewhat

be aware though it takes over a week to kill one , when you kill the shields it reinforces(becomes invulnerable) for 24h ,
then again for 5 days after armour so all told you are looking at at least 6 days.
to attack one you need to slap it during its vulnerable periods which are dictated by the owner so you do not get to choose when to attack it.

what would be helpful to know is
1) who owns it, this way i can tell you if they will defend it or not
2) what time (eve time now) it's timer is set for (blue ring around it with a count down)
3) where it is.

You are aware that you can manually trigger the asset safety and have your stuff moved to a station or citadel? Go to personal assets(ALT-T) and right click the name of the citadel you have the stuck assets at.

Nor was I! Good to know.

Thank you for teaching that to me (or us).

I think I had better activate it today or tommorow,
for it will take longer IF I wait destruction of citadel.
Isn't it?

For attacking citadel,
They are no more kidnapper, although they delayed my assets 3 weeks.
Maybe they aren't so bad to lose their citadel.
However, If some of you, especially Crimson Midnight, want to try the attack,
I'm willing to join there :)
If my attitude is inappropriate, please let me know.
Thanks!

CCP wanted to encourage citadel use, and that's why they made it so easy to recover your assets, regardless of whether the citadel is destroyed or the owner blocks you out. The worst you are going to suffer is some minor inconvenience (and occasionally cost.)

If you want to destroy a citadel, the ability to do it actually has very little to do with the citadel. An astrahus can't really defend itself, and a few ships with some logi can take it down easily. It all comes down to who can put most muscle on grid for the three stages of destruction. In hi-sec you will need a war dec, and if the defender is feeling mean he will allow you to take down the shields and armour, then 6 days later - after you have paid for a second week of war - simply put up a bigger fleet and defend the final timer. Astrahus fully repaired, you are back to square one.

TL;DR don't attack a citadel unless you can beat the defenders fleets (yes, that's a gentle poke at Wrecking Machine there.)

Your attitude is just right.

you get +100 Newbro Chutzpah from little old moi.
don't get mad, get even!
i like it.

Listen, sorry for your loss, chock this up to a lesson, never ever trust players in eve, this is why I don't store or use citadel's for anything except the occasional sale, otherwise you can get burned like this.

War deccing them is a waste of ISK as any corps putting up one of those is lible to have many friends backing them up.

Always, always use NPC stations, to store goods.

Again let it sit there, and contract it to your alt, again trust absolutely NO ONE, but contract it to your alt immediately otherwise if they decide to take down or sell the place your stuff is stuck in a contract, you can make a deal for 3/4 of the worth value with those crooked fingers then you will get something back rather then nothing.

Good luck.