EVE General Discussion

The OP has a point, but it's not very well worded and it comes off as entitled whining. About 3 years ago these forums were in a much healthier state than they currently are, and there are a lot of reasons for that. Personally I'm going to lay the blame at the feet of CCP in engaging the ISD team instead of simply hiring forum moderators and a decent community outreach manager.

No matter which way we cut it the best volunteer ISD is always going to have a little bit of skin in the game, and it's shown in some of the most inconsistent moderation known to man.

These forums have been on a hard decline since the ISD came into play. Threads that shouldn't be locked are locked regularly, entire subforums have basically been shuttered. It's been all around bad, and it's not getting any better.

Fortunately your Dissociative Identity Disorder enables you to warn us of the danger - while preserving your mind from the awful knowledge that you are in fact clearly "one of us" - since you are reading/posting here yourself and not on Reddit.

Just an example of another insincere tantrum.

Why should CCP do anything different if you can't stick to your word; and just slink back in here still paying them?


Edit: Hope your back pain improves. Backpain sux.

I remember when CAOD was bustling with activity. Its locked most of the time and no one post in it anymore. The rest of the forums are pretty dead as well. /r/eve has 600 people browsing it right now, the forums probably have 16. 66k subscribers to /r/eve. Unlikely that 600 subscribers read the forums on the regular basis

Players prefer reddit. They like to talk smack and they like freedom of speech and you cant do that here. CCP posts more there because their are more players there. CCP is also quite active in a few threads here.

I dont care where CCP post as long as i get important info and patch notes via the launcher and we have place we can converse with them on occasion.

There would be at least dozens of people that would be pretty sad if the official Eve Forums went away. We'll probably find out about it on r/eve

It was posted here first and then linked over at /r/eve

Serene just got it wrong.

As to what devs can do in their own free time, **** you I'm sure. You have no right to demand how they spend their time either when they are at work, or on their own time.

Actually we gravitated to Kugu which CCP wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. The shift to reddit occurred when kugu died. As far as Goon CCP employees your information is a bit out of date. We've had two "Goon" devs, who are both gone now (That would be Soundwave and Sreegs) and one goon GM that I know of (Who got fired because he's an idiot). Claiming any of those guys showed favoritism to goons would be silly. Especially since Sreeg's anti bot/rmt banhammer caught a fair number of shall I say "Super enthusiastic ratters."

Poor elusif, has to make his house payments by actually working now looooooooool.

Right now reddit is semi hostile territory to us goons, mainly because we didn't handle the platform well. Despite "The goons must be in school lol" memes and the like, most something awful forums posters are pushing their mid 30's to 40's now and we're far more used to a forums community where the whole thing is in the most literal sense... a community. The idea that there could be fun history subreddit existing on the same website as some woman hating redpill garbage, and the redpillers aren't summarily banned is kind of alien to us.

Somethingawful is generally one of the most heavily moderated forums on the internet, and we're used to a certain authoritarian bent on our community. I.E. if I just started posting say how all women are evil because they won't sleep with me I'd expect a one way ticket to ban town. Meanwhile there's an entire subreddit devoted to just that kind of nonsense. What we have problems recognizing as old web 1.0 nerds is that reddit is really a collection of communities rather than one super mega large community.

So we tend to treat people from reddit like crap. It's a pardigm problem that we need to get over.

I never made any accusation of CCP showing favoritism and yeah, I was referring to Soundwave & Co. Sure, Soundwave may be gone but the Co mentality is still there. Doesn't surprise me to know you guys use another forum now.

Anyway, in my opinion any employee of CCP who want's to post about Eve on a different forum should do so using their own name, not a CCP name. When they use their CCP name it looks 'Official' and when doing so they are literally a representative of the company.


DMC

Having them post on other public forums using their own names is not an entitled customer viewpoint, it's good business practice. Since it's not an 'Official' company forum, in the eyes of the general public whatever they post when using their CCP names basically looks like 'Official' info.


DMC

Now I think CCP would be better leaving that as it was and tell us "Deal with it".

Embracing the unexpected feature that would completely shift all expectations for future.

They could respond with Lore explanation for Purists holding power over Standing system for Amarr empire, developed a virus that is overriding every attempt to get rid of it and making look every Purist vessel as usual Amarr vessel. A masquerade.