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Axel Korgain
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-22 00:33:53 UTC
The representative solemnly stands and brushes imaginary dust from his immaculate coat clears his throat and begins speaking to the assembled dignitaries.

I have recently been provided with the details of an amazing idea by a rare genius who is too introverted to speak for himself. The idea is truly revolutionary.

FIX THE DAMN ASTEROIDS AND JUMP GATES SO THERE IS NO BOUNCING AND GETTING TRAPPED ON THEM.

The representative returns to his chair amid deafening spontaneous applause waving his hand and gesturing to someone lost in the sea of assembled guests who attended the 'Freaking simplest things to improve Eve possible symposium.'
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#2 - 2011-12-22 00:35:47 UTC
Axel Korgain wrote:
FIX THE DAMN ASTEROIDS AND JUMP GATES SO THERE IS NO BOUNCING AND GETTING TRAPPED ON THEM.


lern 2 fly
Jita Alt666
#3 - 2011-12-22 00:40:37 UTC
Seconding: Learn to fly.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#4 - 2011-12-22 00:54:51 UTC
Sounds to me that the issue here is warping to a bookmark that is so close to an object that the random scatter puts you inside it, and you bounce or get trapped.

At present the best way to avoid this is put the BM as far from the object as you can and still have a useful BM.

But: CCP, it would be nice to have a little upgrade to our navigation systems: no BMs can be made inside collision bubbles (except POS shields we got rights to enter) and the end point of any warp, after the random scatter is added, is never inside a collision bubble of a fixed object.

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Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#5 - 2011-12-22 00:57:58 UTC
'Learn to fly' is the proposition .

All in favour say 'I'

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ninjaholic
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2011-12-22 00:59:20 UTC
Get a better bot that dodges asteroids better.

Or learn to fly.

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BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-22 01:08:01 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
'Learn to fly' is the proposition .

All in favour say 'I'


I
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2011-12-22 01:17:24 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
'Learn to fly' is the proposition .

I second that motion
Axel Korgain
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-22 01:18:05 UTC
Yes ok then I will lern 2 fli.

I will. Warp to 100km so that my cloaked ship is far more likely however not certain to be decloaked. I will then approach the NPC RAT cloaked so that I can commence my attack under ideal circumstances. I will then decloak activate my weapons and modules... watch the fireworks and make sure the escorts dont destroy me as I take down the paying target. I align to celestial so that I can warp away whenever necessary.

THEN

I can magically become suspended in the NOTHING and watch helplessly as another Stealth bomber explodes without having paid for it'self.

oh Snap... looks like having already paid my Isk for multiple bombers to learn in didn't do the trick... Guess I have just to keep buying more so they can explode when I get caught in all the NOTHING.
Rgr that its MY fault the clipping is so tragic. And it is.... you know what I'd do to improve playability is to change the GFX to display the roids as like a smoke or gas field that can be travelled through without clipping.

No Clipping. And as for the gates.... simply move the warp in point to off one end of the gate so that ships then move ever so slightly towards the gate and go through the gate all science fictiony and such.

Yes I'm winging... yes I'm pissed because I am NOT a new toon but I've played eve for ages... I have learned to fly... I've learned TO STAY DOCKED. Now back to Jita because that's the best place to be.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2011-12-22 01:26:03 UTC
Axel Korgain wrote:
Words

So basically you tried to rat in (multiple?) stealth bombers and keep dying and keep using the same techniques DESPITE knowing they don't work?

Yup, definitely Eve's fault, not yours
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-12-22 01:26:30 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
'Learn to fly' is the proposition .

All in favour say 'I'


Aye

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BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-12-22 01:27:53 UTC  |  Edited by: BeforetheStorm90
Axel Korgain wrote:
Yes ok then I will lern 2 fli.

I will. Warp to 100km so that my cloaked ship is far more likely however not certain to be decloaked. I will then approach the NPC RAT cloaked so that I can commence my attack under ideal circumstances. I will then decloak activate my weapons and modules... watch the fireworks and make sure the escorts dont destroy me as I take down the paying target. I align to celestial so that I can warp away whenever necessary.

THEN

I can magically become suspended in the NOTHING and watch helplessly as another Stealth bomber explodes without having paid for it'self.

oh Snap... looks like having already paid my Isk for multiple bombers to learn in didn't do the trick... Guess I have just to keep buying more so they can explode when I get caught in all the NOTHING.
Rgr that its MY fault the clipping is so tragic. And it is.... you know what I'd do to improve playability is to change the GFX to display the roids as like a smoke or gas field that can be travelled through without clipping.

No Clipping. And as for the gates.... simply move the warp in point to off one end of the gate so that ships then move ever so slightly towards the gate and go through the gate all science fictiony and such.

Yes I'm winging... yes I'm pissed because I am NOT a new toon but I've played eve for ages... I have learned to fly... I've learned TO STAY DOCKED. Now back to Jita because that's the best place to be.


Tbqh it sounds like you're getting warp jammed. Always kill the smallest stuff first. Unless of course they are way off. I've spent a decent amount of time working on belts (including steath bomb ratting), and I've never seen anything, but the expected bumping from asteroids.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-12-22 01:28:59 UTC
Axel Korgain wrote:
Yes ok then I will lern 2 fli.

I will. Warp to 100km so that my cloaked ship is far more likely however not certain to be decloaked. I will then approach the NPC RAT cloaked so that I can commence my attack under ideal circumstances. I will then decloak activate my weapons and modules... watch the fireworks and make sure the escorts dont destroy me as I take down the paying target. I align to celestial so that I can warp away whenever necessary.

THEN

I can magically become suspended in the NOTHING and watch helplessly as another Stealth bomber explodes without having paid for it'self.

oh Snap... looks like having already paid my Isk for multiple bombers to learn in didn't do the trick... Guess I have just to keep buying more so they can explode when I get caught in all the NOTHING.
Rgr that its MY fault the clipping is so tragic. And it is.... you know what I'd do to improve playability is to change the GFX to display the roids as like a smoke or gas field that can be travelled through without clipping.

No Clipping. And as for the gates.... simply move the warp in point to off one end of the gate so that ships then move ever so slightly towards the gate and go through the gate all science fictiony and such.

Yes I'm winging... yes I'm pissed because I am NOT a new toon but I've played eve for ages... I have learned to fly... I've learned TO STAY DOCKED. Now back to Jita because that's the best place to be.


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Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#14 - 2011-12-22 01:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Alphane
Are you at full speed when you are aligned as you need to be at max speed for your warp drive to kick in, giving going to warp a 'treacly' feeling in some ships especially when warping from standstill, it can be confusing as you speed gauge fails to display this, it just displays 'warping' and flickers.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#15 - 2011-12-22 01:37:42 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
'Learn to fly' is the proposition .

I second that motion


Agreed a shameful display of starship captaining skills there.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2011-12-22 01:40:37 UTC
Change your default warp-to distance (right-click) from 0 m to 500 m. Used to work, but I've not tried lately.
Axel Korgain
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-22 01:47:14 UTC
WOW! The Asshat factory must be working full tilt to supply you all with all your stylish head wear.

I said I am not new. I know when I am jammed I know when I am webbed. I also know when I am colliding with an asteroid.

I cannot change my direction I cannot change my speed I cannot have known I would collide because there was NOTHING there to collide with.

I usually align and slow my ship to just under warp initiation speed so I have more time to destroy the battleship spawn knowing full well my speed changes nothing to the damage being dealt by the escorts.

It IS a clipping problem. Its been there for years and no one has done anything.

Change the GFX remove the clipping.

simple
Axel Korgain
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-12-22 01:47:42 UTC
Thanks for the helpful responses btw.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-22 01:52:00 UTC
Hurrrr, why are solid objects solid? Durrrr...

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-22 01:55:07 UTC
Axel Korgain wrote:
WOW! The Asshat factory must be working full tilt to supply you all with all your stylish head wear.

I said I am not new. I know when I am jammed I know when I am webbed. I also know when I am colliding with an asteroid.

I cannot change my direction I cannot change my speed I cannot have known I would collide because there was NOTHING there to collide with.

I usually align and slow my ship to just under warp initiation speed so I have more time to destroy the battleship spawn knowing full well my speed changes nothing to the damage being dealt by the escorts.

It IS a clipping problem. Its been there for years and no one has done anything.

Change the GFX remove the clipping.

simple



Are you sure its not a glitch/ client side lag? The problem can't be that widespread, I've managed to hug roids at 0 and immediately warp from that point.
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