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CCP "Where's the Beef?"

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Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-09-08 01:41:02 UTC
I am reminded of an old Wendy's commercial with a very snarky old woman yelling "Where's the Beef?" over and over.....

For some reason I feel this way right now......so CCP ... Where's the Beef?

You first dropped some miner (pun intended) changes to the mining barges - basically you repainted them added a stripper or removed a stripper and told us "yaaay" New Stuff™. I do appreciate the new art, but would have preferred some more substantive things which i have already outlined in the feedback thread. So I won't drone on about it here.

Then you dropped a biggie - changes to ongrid boosting ....nice distraction :) Get tons of people up in arms over something they had been warned was coming for ages.

But what you really surprised me with was then dropping ALPHA CLONE...... This had the wondrous effect of distracting angry miners and pvp fanboi's from the two previous topics on to something that after one takes a good hard look at it, was quite alot of nothing. In fact sorta like taking trial accounts - slapping a new coat of paint on them and selling it off as "new" and innovative. Please don't get me wrong. I applaud these moves. Keeps people guessing.

But even after all these things - I am left asking myself "Where's the Beef?"

Where are the dev blogs about upcoming industrial changes?
Where are the industrial/research arrays?
Where are the dev blogs about the actual Rorq changes not just the on grid stuff?
When is cancer / svipul being cured?

The November dates are rapidly approaching, and even if they are not ready for SiSi it might be time to let us know the direction and give people a chance to think them over (whine and complain).

Now perhaps I am just hungry. Which tbh would not be far from the truth, but I would like some beef please....tofu and salad is just not cutting it right now.

Cheers

~R~
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-09-08 02:20:27 UTC
Isn't t3d rebalance scheduled for 'winter' as well as the new structures

Not sure about the rorqual though
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#3 - 2016-09-08 02:21:07 UTC
wait for it.........................................

its coming...........................................

and when it arrives... the entire new eden will be talking about it.

you know this by now... they must go over the quality of the release and set the date besides that.

im sure the blog draft is a work in progress.


patience young one.. for you shall learn the powers of the force....oops

o7

Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#4 - 2016-09-08 05:01:27 UTC
For such a thoughtful question you deserve an equally thoughtful response. Thankfully, the guys at CZ have answered your question in astonishing detail: http://crossingzebras.com/the-great-cow-question/

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#5 - 2016-09-08 05:06:35 UTC
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#6 - 2016-09-08 05:52:01 UTC
Go to an Arby's. According to their commercials they are the ones who "...have the Meats!" I'm sure this beef you speak of is among them.

As for the Eve related stuffs you mentioned, all good things will come in due time, my friend. Some things are slated for the Nov release and not for the Sept one. Not to be one of those "back in my day" types, but just be glad we don't still have to wait for something solid for a minimum of 6 months at a time like we used to.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-09-08 05:56:23 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Go to an Arby's. According to their commercials they are the ones who "...have the Meats!" I'm sure this beef you speak of is among them.

As for the Eve related stuffs you mentioned, all good things will come in due time, my friend. Some things are slated for the Nov release and not for the Sept one. Not to be one of those "back in my day" types, but just be glad we don't still have to wait for something solid for a minimum of 6 months at a time like we used to.


sadly there was but one Arbys drive thru here....and it closed.

no more bacon cheddar curly fries im afraid......

Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-09-08 06:03:19 UTC
Zappity wrote:
For such a thoughtful question you deserve an equally thoughtful response. Thankfully, the guys at CZ have answered your question in astonishing detail: http://crossingzebras.com/the-great-cow-question/


Sweet mother of......

That was too bloody funny.

Thank you for that...will certainly help me digest this poutine im scarfing down right now.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-09-08 06:08:03 UTC
1. The first DEV post about the industrial changes is out 3 more are announced, the whole thing will come in November

2. What do you want? Citadels are out. Alpha/Omega are comming, boosts are changing, mining ships got an overhaul (even if no so much changed), industrial changes are at the doorstep which will definitely have an impact on bases, Rorqual get changed. Fauxes are out, Capitals have changed a lot.

What the **** do you want? CCP is evolving Eve at a fast pace and you are crying for beef? Flown the new Fauxes, tested the new capital waepons, build a citadel? If not there is a lot for you to test out.
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-09-08 06:11:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Regan Rotineque
Geronimo McVain wrote:
1. The first DEV post about the industrial changes is out 3 more are announced, the whole thing will come in November

2. What do you want? Citadels are out. Alpha/Omega are comming, boosts are changing, mining ships got an overhaul (even if no so much changed), industrial changes are at the doorstep which will definitely have an impact on bases, Rorqual get changed. Fauxes are out, Capitals have changed a lot.

What the **** do you want? CCP is evolving Eve at a fast pace and you are crying for beef? Flown the new Fauxes, tested the new capital waepons, build a citadel? If not there is a lot for you to test out.



Faxes - been there done that
cap weapons - old news
citadel buiilding - yup

i want moar ... you sound like a vegitarian....don't knock beef

ohh and one last thing...mining ships are not getting an overhaul unless you consider a new coat of paint an overhaul...the stats are basically all the same.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-09-08 07:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Geronimo McVain
Regan Rotineque wrote:

Faxes - been there done that
cap weapons - old news
citadel buiilding - yup

i want moar ... you sound like a vegitarian....don't knock beef

ohh and one last thing...mining ships are not getting an overhaul unless you consider a new coat of paint an overhaul...the stats are basically all the same.

How much do you think a firm like CCP can deliver each year? This is CCP not Blizzard. And even Blizzard just cooks up a new class and some new areas in WOW each year plus some additional level up.
You are playing this game for 5+ years so the amount of new things is simply limited by the ability of CCP to create new contend. CCP does but it can never comped with a new game and the amount of new stuff there. I really detest all the mourning in Eve forums where people are always demanding more, better, faster stuff but they are unable to put down a post if something is good. Then they just play and mourn about something else.
I'm new, there is a lot of stuff waiting for me and CCP is adding cream on the cake: I'm happy!
Beta Maoye
#12 - 2016-09-08 08:34:42 UTC
Regan Rotineque wrote:

When is cancer / svipul being cured?

You know. Game players don't want balance, but always want power over all others. It's like the old song saying "Everybody wants to rule the world".

The game flattened the old ships and then created an powerful class of ship to allow active and early adaptive players to gain advantage over average players. Once average players found it out and everybody flocks to the new ship class. It triggers another new cycle to flatten that new ship class and then another new powerful ship class will be created to 'please' active players. Can't you see the game will never be truly balanced? There will always be more powerful ships coming out to keep player's attention to the game.
Serene Repose
#13 - 2016-09-08 10:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
What's come across in drips and drabs, and given the repercussions one very friendly, timely announcement had not oh so long ago, it's not surprsing we don't get things in floods (and that the feedback loop has been tightly constricted), especially with regard to industry visa vis the POS system (thus your arrays) is such a massive change is about to be implemented the game will be hardly reconizeable (mechanically) from the original. Not surprisingly several ground floor changes have been incrementally implemented over the course of what's now going on the past TWO years. The other shoe dropping, of course, is...when is that other shoe going to drop?

I don't think the beef you're after is the entree they have in mind. By inference, I think we were being expected to add a bit more roughage to our diets. However, that being said, something is in the offing...and from what I understand just from GD (here) it'll be more like a stream of somethings taking more than the next year to roll out...and this isn't just
eye candy.

I undestand your impatience, however. Being accustomed to Christmas once a month (the Golden Age of MMOs) this schedule of "updates" may be trying to the well-established neural-pathways. Time to create some more! Cool

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#14 - 2016-09-08 10:57:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Quote:
I don't think the beef you're after is the entree they have in mind. By inference, I think we were being expected to add a bit more roughage to our diets.

I think they will take another cookie from us and laugh. Muahahahaaha

Like always.

They only want us to go out and hunt all the beef ourselves.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#15 - 2016-09-08 13:41:52 UTC
Btw, Svipul is being rebalanced in Nov release.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2016-09-08 15:21:00 UTC
I found the beef!

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Ezin
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-09-08 15:22:02 UTC
a better question is where is the bacon?
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#18 - 2016-09-08 19:40:21 UTC
What are your favorite foods to eat while playing eve online.

i like pizza although it causes my keyboard to have cheese stuck on the F1 key a lot perhaps they should give us controllers of some type.


Where is the beef?

now im beginning to wonder the pure silence from ccp and the CCP Falcon is rather strange..


im beginning to be afraid..


back to eating salad

better to eat salad, than toss salad...oh im bad..im very very bad

o7
Hallvardr
#19 - 2016-09-08 20:00:25 UTC
OP - THANK YOU.

I usually don't call out the emperor's new cloths issue - opting to let someone else jump that shark. But you are spot on. After any amount of calm, sane, scrutiny of just what was really going on, it was a lot of ... well ... nothing.
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-09-09 02:14:03 UTC
I actually use sheep blood and serum from both rabbits and cows at work.

Science FTW!
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