Intergalactic Summit

I think that Ms. Vea was reminded several times internally to keep her posting tasteful and non-offensive. It didn't work in the past, apparently - why should we expect that this will change in the future? I don't think this is a matter that SFRIM can say they dealt with it internally and expect the other parties to be satisfied by that.

There has been no offical posts properly adressing Ms. Vea's misbehaviour, showing any disapproval of it, nor clarifying what SFRIM's position is in contrast to Ms. Vea's. Not even that last post has official status, as I don't see any [SFRIM] tag in the header.

SFRIM is on the best way to earn the reputation that it's tolerating racism and hatespeech in it's own ranks by tacitly approving or at least tolerating this display.

As to Ms. Jenneth:
SFRIM is still declaring to "aim to spread the word through example and teaching" and to "act with honor and dignity at all times, in victory and in defeat". How is the general public to believe that if there are such bad examples given and so little honor and dignity shown in treating other people by SFRIM pilots?

If Ms. Vea is holding a grudge, then SFRIM should help her overcome it, instead of demonstrating tacit approval of her deeds by 'handling this matter internally' and downplaying it publicly? Instead her successes in fighting the drifters - which are undeniable - are loudly and publicly celebrated. I don't see how SFRIM can expect to celebrate publicly Ms. Vea's successes, yet putting her obvious failings under a rug.

As an operator of The Good Word I have to add that SFRIM is under close scrutiny in regards to it's presence in TGW and their use of the channel as their main public contact point.

Some people have no sense of humour.

Goons will be goons.

Oh, please. Ali's been amazingly non-Goony through all of this.

Cute song turns into **** slinging. Par for the course IGS, keep up the good work.

See, I think you should do it. What's good for the goose, after all...

Look, a child can sing about bombing nations and play games that involve shooting many people for as long as the child understands that he/she should never do any of these for real and the acts described in the song are actually 'bad things to do'. That's why parents exist.

And everything can and should be mocked. Republic, Empire, Federation, State? Doesn't matter. Gods? Spirits? Kings? Point at some odd facets of them and laugh at those. Day of Darkness? Let's make a satire out of it! How about Vak'Atioth? Mock that too! Nouvre Rouvenor? I'm surprised there aren't songs about the Dragonaurs flooding that city already. Svipuls being very annoying? Let's write a song about how ridiculously 'overpowered' those are. In fact, sing at the POV of the Svipul for as long as it is clear that the objective is to point and laugh.

Heck, I always joke about how the Republic leadership can't hold meetings without fists flying somewhere in the middle. I also mock the Black Eagles often and bring up their ridiculously heavy-handed response to some of the things they deal with. Still can't figure out how to mock the Day of Darkness though. Probably because I didn't live through that and records are actually pretty sparse.

You're normally a very logical person, so it confuses me that you missed Miss Vea's original assertion that she learned the song as a teenager and that she sings the refrain sometimes because the tune's catchy. In fact, you can see that she remembers very little of the actual lyrics. The song was removed from the original context she mentioned it in and moved to this neutral thread where it could lose whatever connotations it's original context might give it.

Whether you approve of it or not, this is a children's song that is popular in the State. I'm sure I could find ones from your own neck of the woods that would seem just as bad if not worse.



A threat? Direct action would be a massive over-reaction, don't you think? Besides which, even if I had performed an assessment of your orbital and interstellar assets, determined an exploitable vulnerability and planned a punitive raid accordingly, it's very unlikely that the first you'd learn of this would be on the IGS.

No, we were talking about reputations and relationships.

You are pretty good. However, unless the audience knew of the context being that of the Day of Darkness, they would think this is about Tribal stereotypes. Thukkers do go 'WHOOSH'! even without a Bestower around.

Not for nothing, but while you're quite reasonably extolling the virtues of mutual respect for one another's heritage and culture, and not being needlessly offensive through unintentional callous myopia...

Alizabeth's mentioned several times that she left the 'Vea' surname behind when she 'drank the tea' as the Caldari put it. Seems kinda disrespectful toward the Caldari culture to keep referring to her as 'Ms. Vea'... in an unintentional callously myopic way, you know?