EVE General Discussion

And yet, surprise surprise, CCP haven't gone and done that. The group of devs that high-five with you all at Fanfest, whilst getting drunk and laughing at your jokes like girls in front of boys they like, sadly isn't the same devs who make all the real decisions at CCP, you know the kind that might say "who?" when one says "CODE."

Of further note, the recent changes to bumping mechanics would indicate that heeding good ol' father-o-hisec James' advice is the furthest thing from their minds. One thing about being drunk, is you have that crashing-to-reality hangover the next day.

If you haven't noticed, CCP writes its own lore for Eve, and whilst some at CCP may enjoy masturbating to the Goons' emergent shannanigans, they haven't gone so far as to actually write them into lore. Having a mission where you read a group of players' website wouldn't really fit with the game, now would it? The idea itself further proves that the delusions of grandieu possessed by the Almighty James (and possibly yourself) is matched only by the scale of the galactic map in Eve itself.

Well I disagree.

It is well known and documented that AG are in favour of bots. So no surprise there.

I'd always thought that CODE. were either

a) made up of Goons themselves, bored of having-it-all in null, or

b) Goon-wannabes who had been scammed out of a billion or two trying to join them, so decided to form their own corp instead.

Thanks for confirming the latter

You overlook the possibility of CODE. members being what we actually are.

Former can-flippers, ninja salvagers, mission invaders, awoxers, highsec wardeccers and various other veterans of highsec pvp who have been forced by the constant changes to highsec safety into one large, organized and frankly a bit annoyed group dedicated to the one remaining form of emergent gameplay left to us. Namely, ganking.

James 315 gave us an organization, a mission and a Code. Because of the type of people we are, in game and in RL, it was all it took.

The miners demands for nerfs created us. And that's what you call ironic.

Let's pretend for one moment I believe your cult, cough, corp's 'mantra'.

Firstly, I find it hard to believe that alliances with sov, based most of the time in null, give a damn what goes on in highsec, unless it's an opportunity to up their killboard

Secondly, as there is a production line that essentially supplies null, that at its lower eschelons employs miners, botting or otherwise, then this would also make no sense.

Thirdly, now that CCP are teetering on going into receivership, even the hardiest of HTFU devs is shitting bricks about losing their job, hence semi-F2P (about to go full F2P when the first 'model' fails, I'm guessing say March?) the ONLY consideration on CCP's minds is getting new players into the game - which means they have to not insta-quit.

So I'm guessing the New Order failed to save Hisec in the end. What a pity.

So tell me, what religion are you planning to create next?

I suppose you can see it that way but its neither what I said or meant. We were players who loved what we were doing in Eve and it was taken away from us for reasons not justified by any vision of the game. So, we responded in-game and created an organization to fight against what we saw as ruining the game. By CCP's definition we never were and are not now "griefers" as we aren't banned, not most of us anyway and those that have been banned didn't break the actual EULA. They were banned for annoying influential members of the CSM.

Remember the point of this thread is whether or not people like me, are real life dangers to society. People who have suggested that we are have been rightly lampooned. Maybe I did explain too much and its beyond the average highsec miner's ability to understand the underlying issues. I always figured you for someone with more depth. Explain to me which of those professions I listed were griefing.

I've made the same point in other threads. Its not like its a deep dark secret where Agents come from.

Your honor, I rest my case.

From the horse's own mouth. OP's question has been answered. Thread can now be closed.

Riiiight.

And that's why CODE. mainly goes after noob miners in ventures who are mining a box or two of veld....

...and not the heavily pew-protected uber mining fleets that the enemy are using.

Gotcha.