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Imperial Guard confirms rumors of thwarted attack in Throne Worlds

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Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-09-06 18:37:13 UTC
Imperial Guard confirms rumors of thwarted attack in Throne Worlds

Alton Haveri wrote:
KEHOUR – Several decks of the Emperor Family Bureau in orbit of the second moon of Kehour VIII remain sealed off to the public this afternoon, after a failed chemical attack against Imperial Guard personnel based on board the station.

In a statement released just moments ago, a spokeswoman for the Emperor Family confirmed that “three chemical devices were placed and subsequently detonated around an atmosphere handling and processing plant on board the station’s mid-level service deck.

This resulted in three decks of the station’s security sector becoming flooded with GR-12 military grade nerve gas, after it was drawn in to the station’s ventilation system”.

It has since been confirmed by the Imperial Guard that there was no loss of human life due to the attack, however a division of 246 Syrikos hounds were killed after their kennel block was flooded with hazardous vapors.

The station, which is home to both Emperor Family civilian administrative personnel and a division of more than two hundred thousand Imperial Guard military personnel, remains fully open to the public for trade and operations despite the lockdown of the affected area, which was evacuated before any major effects of the gas could take hold.

It is believed at this stage that suspicious behavior from several members of the public in addition to noise from detonations of the chemical devices alerted officers of the Imperial Guard who were on security duty at the time. This enabled them to react quickly by shutting down the atmosphere handling plant before evacuating and sealing off the affected area.

The Imperial Guard and Ministry of Internal Order are currently investigating holvid footage from the station’s security archives in order to determine the identity and motives of the attackers, with many experts believing that the blame lies with Amarr purists in opposition to Empress Catiz’s claim to the throne.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#2 - 2016-09-06 18:52:29 UTC
Huh.... a thing happened. Neat.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-09-06 19:19:05 UTC

Give the number of the organizer is attack.
I'll give them money at a reasonable action.


To beat is necessary for the structure of government.
Strong and powerful.
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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#4 - 2016-09-06 19:19:55 UTC
Is it not the most cowardly and dishonorable way to express one's disapproval by killing a head of st-- A BUNCH OF PUPPIES???

Just kidding. Slaver hounds are nasty things. Kudos to MIO and Imperial Guard for securing the situation efficiently and avoiding human harm; I expect that the perpetrators will be found and brought to justice rapidly.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#5 - 2016-09-06 19:27:01 UTC
I wonder who is behind this ? It is good no human life has been lost in the attack. It could of turned out to be much worse.
Mitara Newelle
Newelle Family
#6 - 2016-09-06 19:30:58 UTC
Neph wrote:
Is it not the most cowardly and dishonorable way to express one's disapproval by killing a head of st-- A BUNCH OF PUPPIES???

Just kidding. Slaver hounds are nasty things.


Syrikos hounds are very intelligent, loyal beasts. What happened to them was horrific.

Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-09-06 19:32:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
The attackers revealing their intentions by going after an Imperial Guard garrison is a very overt move. It brings with it a lot of suspicion and loses you the element of surprise. A large risk for seemingly little gain.

The Imperial Guard is a small cadre relative to the Empire, it is possible that someone wishes to replace members of the Imperial Guard. Force replacement of loyal soldiers with those of different loyalties by leaving vacancies in the roster. Or perhaps to simply deplete their manpower. In my mind, either indicates a precursor to a larger attack and not an objective unto itself... It is very strange.

But god is not on the side of the attackers, they fail and gain nothing yet.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#8 - 2016-09-06 19:40:28 UTC
Mitara Newelle wrote:
Neph wrote:
Is it not the most cowardly and dishonorable way to express one's disapproval by killing a head of st-- A BUNCH OF PUPPIES???

Just kidding. Slaver hounds are nasty things.


Syrikos hounds are very intelligent, loyal beasts. What happened to them was horrific.


Forgive me if I reserve the right to call the slobbering creatures names. They're not exactly liked by most Matari. Besides, I'm more of a cat person, nissatu, mikkara neisen itabezu~

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2016-09-06 19:43:09 UTC
Actually, the biggest news to come of this is that Tom Horn is now a member of a CVA corporation.

Weeiiiird.

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Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-09-06 19:53:15 UTC
Phoenix rises from the ashes of the old world. TwistedTwisted
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#11 - 2016-09-06 19:54:55 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Actually, the biggest news to come of this is that Tom Horn is now a member of a CVA corporation.

Weeiiiird.



These are interesting times indeed for the Region and the Alliance.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#12 - 2016-09-06 20:24:55 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:

These are interesting times indeed for the Region and the Alliance.


Indeed!

But on a more serious note, news of an attack is an unhappy thing. Let us hope the conspirators are caught and put to justice.

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Alizebeth Amalath
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-09-06 20:29:12 UTC
This is a very sad day. There is madness in the Empire. It must end.
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2016-09-06 20:41:18 UTC
Alizebeth Amalath wrote:
This is a very sad day. There is madness in the Empire. It must end.

This is only the beginning. TwistedTwisted
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#15 - 2016-09-06 21:07:26 UTC
Gas in the ventilation system? Now, why would the Serpentis do such a thing to the Imperial Guard?
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#16 - 2016-09-06 21:07:27 UTC
On to a more serious reply, aa someone whom now has rather personal experiance with Slaver Hounds I can assure people that with correct training they can be very good companions. Yes, they are working animals and yes they are not fluffy "pets", but they are intelligent and loyal, willing to fight to the death for their master and family. As with any animal in one's household, you get back what you put in. I'm sad to hear of news of this attack and I hope the instigators are duly found and punished.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Arrendis
TK Corp
#17 - 2016-09-06 21:36:21 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
The attackers revealing their intentions by going after an Imperial Guard garrison is a very overt move. It brings with it a lot of suspicion and loses you the element of surprise. A large risk for seemingly little gain.

The Imperial Guard is a small cadre relative to the Empire, it is possible that someone wishes to replace members of the Imperial Guard. Force replacement of loyal soldiers with those of different loyalties by leaving vacancies in the roster. Or perhaps to simply deplete their manpower. In my mind, either indicates a precursor to a larger attack and not an objective unto itself... It is very strange.

But god is not on the side of the attackers, they fail and gain nothing yet.


Actually, if I had to guess, I'd say they achieved precisely what they aimed for: Public notice - and a test run.

Consider: the Imperial Guard never actually spotted the explosives. An atmospheric facility was targeted, one of the station's critical systems, and the Imperial Guard were only even aware of the explosives... because they exploded. They've been demonstrated to be lax, and their security porous. If the attackers had wanted to go after the garrison itself, they'd have hit an atmospheric processing facility in a more critical location. And for all anyone knows, they still might. After all, what did they hide the explosives in?

Don't know - nobody spotted the bombs. It's going to take weeks to reconstruct things, even if the containers weren't vaporized in the blasts. And now, they've got publicity. Terrorists attack the Imperial Guard, and the Guard can only lock things down after the bombs go off.

That's terrible optics. It sends the message that the Guard can't even keep themselves and their own facilities safe. How are they supposed to protect the Empress? The Empire? You like to claim you're an experienced and expert soldier, Ayallah. How do you miss that blatant objective so badly as to claim they failed?

And 'someone wishes to replace members of the Imperial Guard'? Three weeks before the coronation is not the time when you're going to be replacing people. Anyone being transferred in now is immediately suspect. Manpower depletion? Really? An atmospheric processing center on what's clearly a low-population section of the station? (If it was a high-population section, there would've been more difficulty evacuating the inhabitants.) Did your training include nothing on asymmetric warfare and terrorism?

Military victories are never the objective of terrorism. At most, they'll be a secondary objective, one used as a demonstration of power in service of the greater objective. And that greater objective is fear. It is public unrest among your target populace. Public unease. And that's achieved via publicity, and an inability for those who claim to be in control to actually take control of the messaging. One attack? That should immediately be glossed over at a time like this, played as 'there was an accident, we're investigating' until after the coronation... but it wasn't. Nobody managed to even get ahead of the story.

Say that there was an equipment malfunction that resulted in some dangerous gas buildup. Say a few pockets of the gas sparked some minior explosions while another killed some hounds. No humans were killed and the facility sustained only temporary damage. Then, after the coronation, you announce that the investigation has determined there were criminal elements involved, and the authorities are already taking steps to apprehend them.

They couldn't even pull that together? Now? After what happened last year, everyone's already thinking 'assassination attempts'. So let's just go ahead and be all 'yup, we've got terrorists on EF stations blowing up stuff belonging to the very people who are supposed to keep terrorists from blowing stuff up, and doing it right under their noses. This is terrible messaging. Absolutely terrible. And what's worse is: the inability to downplay this only increases the likelihood of people seeing completely innocent mishaps are being related.

And if there are other legitimate attacks? This will have been merely the first domino, the first element of the pattern.

It is far too early to claim anyone 'failed' here... except, of course, the Imperial Guard. They failed to spot the explosives ahead of time. They failed to even stop and take into custody the individuals whose 'suspicious behavior' alerted them (along with the explosions... how's that work? 'Hey, Bob, something exploded, should we check it out?' 'I dunno... wait, that guy over there's acting suspicious! Let's check out that explosion!').

The only thing they didn't fail at was evacuating everyone and slamming the doors closed. If this is part of a larger terrorism campaign, the messaging that'll come out writes itself: "Imperial Guard helpless to do anything but run away."
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#18 - 2016-09-06 22:30:33 UTC
There is also the possibility that this is a distraction. If the attacker has a specific goal in mind, it would make sense to draw attention to something high profile yet completely unrelated to keep the authorities busy elsewhere.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Vlad Cetes
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2016-09-06 22:55:03 UTC
Arrendis is correct. This is just a test run and a gauge of the Imperial Guard's reactions.

Of course, being human and having less advanced technology, they were poor.

To those interested in causing chaos, our comms channels are always open for business.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-09-07 00:44:56 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Actually, if I had to guess, I'd say they achieved precisely what they aimed for: Public notice - and a test run. . . . now, they've got publicity. Terrorists attack the Imperial Guard, and the Guard can only lock things down after the bombs go off.
The station is owned and operated by the Emperor Family Bureau, not the Imperial guard who is only based there. As you will notice, it was not the secure decks the Imperial Guard operate in that were targeted but "were placed and subsequently detonated around an atmosphere handling and processing plant on board the station’s mid-level service deck." You are eager to point out the failure of the Imperial Guard but the chemical devices that forced them to evacuate their sections of the station were placed elsewhere. They were not guarded and managed or operated by the elite soldiers of the Imperial Guard but by The Emperor Family Bureau. The Emperor Family Bureau employs from all over the Empire, from every house imaginable and is exactly where agents of a singular house would go unnoticed. Whomever set the devices very likely had keys to the areas that the bombs were planted in. "Around a mid level atmosphere handling and processing plant" is much easier to gain access through a loyal worker who can create an alibi than the secure base of the Empress's personal guard. That is why this is the vector chosen, it much easier. This too is likely why it was a satellite base and not their headquarters that was attacked. Your appraisal that the Imperial Guard was lax is inaccurate.

Arrendis wrote:
. . . It sends the message that the Guard can't even keep themselves and their own facilities safe. How are they supposed to protect the Empress? The Empire? You like to claim you're an experienced and expert soldier, Ayallah. How do you miss that blatant objective so badly as to claim they failed?
Do you think a chemical bomb that failed to kill any people sends a larger message than the Drifter did at Safizon Arrendis? Making someone look bad is an objective maybe in the Goonswarm Federation but at war, killing the enemy is the objective. No citizen of the Empire is going to stand out against the Empress because her guard were able to deftly avoid an attack. Those who oppose her ascension will not gain anything by making her guard look bad ...Only replacement with a more competent guard. No. they have much more to gain by making her vulnerable by killing her protectors than by slandering them. You insist this was terrorism. If it was, it is pathetic. A Bloody hand would look painted in pigs blood and just as frightening if this was all they could accomplish.

Arrendis wrote:
And 'someone wishes to replace members of the Imperial Guard'? Three weeks before the coronation is not the time when you're going to be replacing people. Anyone being transferred in now is immediately suspect. Manpower depletion? Really? An atmospheric processing center on what's clearly a low-population section of the station? (If it was a high-population section, there would've been more difficulty evacuating the inhabitants.) Did your training include nothing on asymmetric warfare and terrorism?
Three Decks of a station is not a small area Arrendis, and not sparsely populated as you suggest.

"The station, which is home to both Emperor Family civilian administrative personnel and a division of more than two hundred thousand Imperial Guard military personnel."

If the Imperial Guard and Emperor Family Bureau had been lax then it is likely very many people would have died. Being vetted into the Imperial Guard is a long and difficult process that looks at a lifetime of record, but you will be replacing people if there are not enough to stand in her guard. That is a simple fact. Of course they will be looked at and vetted …but it is easier to hide a metaphorical knife in a crowd than alone in an interview room. I do not know their intent more than you do, I only speculate. And yes I was trained in asymmetric warfare and am a veteran of many years of it. I also was trained in the intricacies of inter-house plotting and am a veteran of that too.
Arrendis wrote:
Military victories are never the objective of terrorism. . . . Public unease. . . Nobody managed to even get ahead of the story.
Military instillations are rarely targeted by terrorists, yes. Yet you insist that this is terrorism. And perhaps you have not spent much time in the Empire. God is their sanctuary and even the death of their Empress at the hands of the alien Drifter will not break that faith. Unease in the Empire is worth almost nothing. You are also incorrect about “the story,” you and all of us heard of this only because the Imperial Guard made a statement.
Arrendis wrote:
. . .And if there are other legitimate attacks? This will have been merely the first domino, the first element of the pattern. . . It is far too early to claim anyone 'failed' here. . .
I agree, this is what I said in my post.

You say it is too early yet that “public failure” seems to be the entire premise of your argument. As I said before the Imperial Guard were not at fault. Oh, and the strange behavior of members of the public was the early effects of nerve agent exposure Arrendis. If the Imperial Guard was not so well trained and drilled to recognize the signs of exposure then in minutes everyone would have died. As you pointed out, they responded swiftly and surely in evacuating their decks, preventing loss of life. Most G series agents take only minutes to reach fatal levels.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

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