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[GalFed] Villore Assembly resolution on the crowning of Empress Catiz

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Sammie MacWinters
Gradient
Electus Matari
#121 - 2016-09-07 03:37:20 UTC
John Revenent wrote:
Sammie MacWinters wrote:
We're having a nice conversation. Go away.


About something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I believe the term is called derailing.


Elanion wrote:
Thread was good and derailed by the time the fashion discussion started.


We're talking about proper dress for the delegation. This is very much on topic.
If anything, we've rerailed it.
Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#122 - 2016-09-07 03:37:27 UTC
John Revenent wrote:
Sammie MacWinters wrote:
We're having a nice conversation. Go away.


About something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I believe the term is called derailing.



I think the main thing you're unfortunately missing is that the bulk and the beef of this thread has long since passed wherein people were complaining and whinging about a single tiny itty bitty wording error and latching on to it ("Requesting? NO, THAT MEANS DEMANDING") and otherwise. While this discussion is a touch spotty with regards to the OP content, it's very much an on-topic inquiry into the dress code of the mixer that will take place after the coronation in addition to some interesting insights in Federal/Empire differences! It's really neat stuff.

I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#123 - 2016-09-07 03:47:30 UTC
Do keep in mind that lipstick can be considered Heresy in some parts of Empire.
Sammie MacWinters
Gradient
Electus Matari
#124 - 2016-09-07 03:52:22 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Do keep in mind that lipstick can be considered Heresy in some parts of Empire.

Which only applies to those of the faith or of the Empire.
Tressith Sefira
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#125 - 2016-09-07 03:55:16 UTC
Sammie MacWinters wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Do keep in mind that lipstick can be considered Heresy in some parts of Empire.

Which only applies to those of the faith or of the Empire.


Noooo see this is what I've been saying. As a diplomatic delegation we want to be polite and respect local customs. I won't wear lipstick. Is lip gloss illegal?
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#126 - 2016-09-07 04:05:56 UTC
John Revenent wrote:
Sammie MacWinters wrote:
We're having a nice conversation. Go away.


About something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I believe the term is called derailing.

Now, now John. Don't tell me it hasn't been illuminating to see which Amarr were kissing up to the Feddies? It seems we can trust Lady Newelle and House, at least.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#127 - 2016-09-07 04:30:54 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
indeed I left those lines out, knowingly so. You will note: They are addressed to the reader: That is the Amarr faithful.


Sincere question here:

Wouldn't all of the verses be addressed to the reader? I mean, that's the point of having them read it, no?
Lord Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#128 - 2016-09-07 04:32:06 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Do keep in mind that lipstick can be considered Heresy in some parts of Empire.


Only if it's absolutely terribly applied and/or totally unflattering to the wearer. Fashion crimes are truly heretical.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#129 - 2016-09-07 04:50:34 UTC
Tressith Sefira wrote:
Sammie MacWinters wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Do keep in mind that lipstick can be considered Heresy in some parts of Empire.

Which only applies to those of the faith or of the Empire.


Noooo see this is what I've been saying. As a diplomatic delegation we want to be polite and respect local customs. I won't wear lipstick. Is lip gloss illegal?


Ah-- Triss? Joking aside, I'm pretty sure this is a straight-up "no." Lipstick's not a problem either. Caldari sensibilities might consider it decadent in places, but Amarr tend to see aesthetics as functional and practical. Why would God's kingdom in this world insist on looking utilitarian? Even an Amarrian battleship serves a religious function, after all.

My use of cosmetics is pretty sparing by Amarrian standards, but I do use a little. It's never gotten me in any trouble at all.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#130 - 2016-09-07 05:09:26 UTC
Oh, I'm sure lipstick will be completely fine in a meeting of high order.

Just don't go wearing it on some Ammatar planets. Or makeup. Or have tattoos. Witchcraft trials are still a thing in some places. Come to think of it, being a capsuleer would qualify you to be burnt at the stake too.
Sammie MacWinters
Gradient
Electus Matari
#131 - 2016-09-07 05:15:25 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Oh, I'm sure lipstick will be completely fine in a meeting of high order.

Just don't go wearing it on some Ammatar planets. Or makeup. Or have tattoos. Witchcraft trials are still a thing in some places. Come to think of it, being a capsuleer would qualify you to be burnt at the stake too.

These sound like backwater planets.
Lord Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#132 - 2016-09-07 06:16:19 UTC
Sammie MacWinters wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Oh, I'm sure lipstick will be completely fine in a meeting of high order.

Just don't go wearing it on some Ammatar planets. Or makeup. Or have tattoos. Witchcraft trials are still a thing in some places. Come to think of it, being a capsuleer would qualify you to be burnt at the stake too.

These sound like backwater planets.


It sounds like total nonsense from someone who has never set foot in the Mandate.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#133 - 2016-09-07 06:32:20 UTC
Oh, but I have been. It's the unique cultural juxtaposition of the region that has brought oddities such as this one forward.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#134 - 2016-09-07 06:53:33 UTC
... well, it's a big Empire, and capsuleers aren't well-liked in a lot of places.

But ... really? It seems pretty unlikely that even isolated communities would develop views like that about things that are hallmarks of mainstream Amarrian society. Including the Empress.

Var? Ms. Kernher? If you're monitoring at all-- have you ever heard of such a thing?
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#135 - 2016-09-07 09:08:21 UTC
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Minmatar and Amarr all in agreement about their criticism of the Villore Accords.

One Minmatar whose careless aspersing is a matter of debate and disagreement on our shared homeplanet. Athryn Noduri of Ru (Teinyhr) has a valid point or two but the way she chose to make them is considered shameful by some Vherokior subtribes and clans. You're not supposed to turn around and urinate on the people inside your own tent. Care with words is of cultural importance to many Vherokior because of our large involvement in commerce but supporting "our own" is important too.
If Teinyhr really supported the Villore Assembly and our Federal allies, she would have made her objections in private. Her choice to make her objections public and persistent is an act of disrespect for everything the Assembly has done and every person in the Assembly who's trying to make the world a little better.
(This post is going to earn me some flak but in subtribe Lunhis it's acceptable to respond to public bad behavior of this type with public censure.)



One: I never claimed to be the spokesperson of the Minmatar, or my Tribe, or even my clan. I have only expressed MY views, please do point where I have done otherwise. While yes, what I do can be counted as acting in the name of my family and clan and to some extent my tribe, I have distanced myself quite a bit from day-to-day affairs with the Clan. They're free to cut any lingering ties with me if they so choose and consider me unworthy to stand with them. However until they do, I suggest you do not lecture me or my Clan on anything.

Two: The Villore Assembly are not "my own." I wasn't aware that saying I respect them in a way made me somehow affiliated with them - I do not affiliate with them in any way besides from silent and sometimes vocal support.

Three: I have no idea what I've done to **** you off this much, or indeed most of the people in this thread. You and many other people seem to act like some terrible insults have been thrown around, while most that has or had been done at that point was to tell them to check themselves before they wreck themselves and tone down their ego a bit.

Four: You got any complaints with me, then involve me, not the people behind me.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#136 - 2016-09-07 09:57:45 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Now, now John. Don't tell me it hasn't been illuminating to see which Amarr were kissing up to the Feddies? It seems we can trust Lady Newelle and House, at least.
I still sing 'And Bombard Gallente Prime' in the shower sometimes. Though I do omit the refrain. I am sure you can understand why.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Sammie MacWinters
Gradient
Electus Matari
#137 - 2016-09-07 10:01:58 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Now, now John. Don't tell me it hasn't been illuminating to see which Amarr were kissing up to the Feddies? It seems we can trust Lady Newelle and House, at least.
I still sing 'And Bombard Gallente Prime' in the shower sometimes. Though I do omit the refrain. I am sure you can understand why.

That's an inappropriate comment to make in a thread about fostering positive relations.
Keep it to yourself.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#138 - 2016-09-07 10:27:45 UTC
It's a catchy tune. Maybe I'll make a thread to try and get all the verses collected. I've forgotten several.
Actually most of the songs I learned a girl were catchy: 'Napalm Sticks to Frogs,' 'All I Ever Wanna See . . .' and 'Sniper Wonderland' are tunes I still remember today.
Whatever else happened after, my time at the CNM Academy for Girls is something I will always remember fondly. The songs and ditties were great, almost as fun as the weapons training. Got to keep fourteen year old girls focused somehow, right?

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
William Danneskjold
#139 - 2016-09-07 10:52:03 UTC
The amount of petty bullshit in the thread is quite frankly appalling and disgusting. I'm forever reminded that capsuleers are not, as the training would claim, the top .00001% of society's intelligent, but are instead a group of immature children bleating in an abattoir.

War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#140 - 2016-09-07 10:55:16 UTC
William Danneskjold wrote:
The amount of petty bullshit in the thread is quite frankly appalling and disgusting. I'm forever reminded that capsuleers are not, as the training would claim, the top .00001% of society's intelligent, but are instead a group of immature children bleating in an abattoir.


We just happen to have guns. Very big guns.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.