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Slayer Liberator

Fusion Enterprises Ltd

Pandemic Horde

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#221 - 2016-09-29 13:00:03 UTC | Edited by: Slayer Liberator

Diana Kim wrote:

Kolodi Ramal wrote:

This is getting embarrassing. She's talking about having a camera on a turret just for fun, not for using it to aim.

Indeed. But, well, I guess some peoples are straightforward stupid to realize this. I think Egivand is actually a... ship mechanic? Right? I can understand the way he is reasoning: "If to target a ship you need to look at it, thus if you are looking at it, you need to do the targeting procedures yourself." This is quite common logical fallacy, and a reason why I would never ever actually let someone like Egivand to do complex engineering tasks. I believe despite his ability to cite technical manuals his best position on the ship (if he wouldn't be a capsuleer) would be a janitor.

As for Rella's remark, it is widely known that the space between her ears is as bright as jump links in J7HZ-F. Quite typical for a rabid dog like her to jump in help to another tribal to try to attack a Caldari representative. But alas, she did it so fast without even realizing what the talk was about, just displaying her inability to think to the whole IGS. I would pity her for her lack of mental prowess, if I would consider her a human being.

Oh, and Mr. Ramal. It was not just for fun, but to see how they explode and cease to exist. It gives sort of... satisfaction.

so..... you're physically tracking them right well then you should definitely be able to track better than a mercenary sniper let me prove you wrong on New Caldari tomorrow at 1700

Elmund Egivand

Tribal Liberation Force

Minmatar Republic

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#222 - 2016-09-30 02:48:01 UTC | Edited by: Elmund Egivand

Slayer Liberator wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:

Kolodi Ramal wrote:

This is getting embarrassing. She's talking about having a camera on a turret just for fun, not for using it to aim.

so..... you're physically tracking them right well then you should definitely be able to track better than a mercenary sniper let me prove you wrong on New Caldari tomorrow at 1700

Make sure to track something that is at minimum 500m away and is moving around at speed of 800m/s.

Back to Diana, the problem is also about tracking with the human eye. Again, you can barely see the thing. And even if you can see the thing you can barely differentiate it from the other specks of light that's all around you. So, yes, you get a computer to do the calculation for you as you try to aim manually. Then you run into two problems:

First problem, the reticle, in order to actually be perceivable, has to be larger than the target itself by a non-negligible margin. So assuming that the reticle is adjusted after calculations and you did follow those directions...guess what! If you are slightly off by even 0.01 degrees you are going to end up missing regardless.

So you solve that with the digital 'ruler' in the camera. Now you have to measure to reduce the margin of error, which slows your reaction time further, causing you to miss the timing and therefore the mark.

Second problem, your reaction time. Your reaction plus the mechanics of the turret, ensures that there will always be a delay. Even a generous 0.5 seconds delay will cause you to miss by a wide margin.

Forget all that and let automation do all the work for you instead. Automation is faster, more responsive and far more precise. Automated turrets can already start aiming while calculations are still being done, to ensure that the guns are pointed exactly where they are supposed to be pointed just in time for the next firing cycle, assuming the turret turn speed allows it. Just be there, in your capsule, and provide that wonderful hardware in your brain to aid in further adjusting the calculation based on your ability to perform pattern recognitions and intuitive adjustments, of which your standard shipboard AI is incapable of doing.

There is a very good reason why manned turrets had fallen out of favour as compared to purely automated gunnery and missilery system for over two centuries now.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

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Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Likes received: 2,408	#223 - 2016-09-30 05:18:03 UTC Diana Kim wrote: As for Rella's remark, it is widely known that the space between her ears is as bright as jump links in J7HZ-F. Incorrect. From my cousin and Synthia's groundbreaking research here. Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.