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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2016-09-03 11:01:32 UTC
If cruisers and battleships receieved bonuses to rocket and missiles, then enemy frigates and destroyers would get blabbed easily, before they even put a dent in the Battleships insane armor.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2016-09-03 11:11:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
If cruisers and battleships receieved bonuses to rocket and missiles, then enemy frigates and destroyers would get blabbed easily, before they even put a dent in the Battleships insane armor.

Nope they wouldn't. Bonuses for small weapons on a large ship are small bonuses. If the Rokh got small blaster weapons bonus it would get a bonus of 1.1k optimal all the way to an amazing 1.6k optimal or .5k.

Bonuses scale with weapon size. A 50% optimal bonus (level 5 if 10% per level) on a large weapon is much bigger simply because large weapons have much larger range.


elitatwo wrote:
Video time:

Lazors

Its a nice vid but like all those vids it requires idiots to sit in optimal like they did and they only post the times it worked, appears once, take a look at all the rattles and rokhs he lost when it didn't work. There's quite a few.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Lugh Crow-Slave
#63 - 2016-09-03 11:33:26 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
... i have 686dps first falloff is over 13k i have the tracking of small blasters why am i only hitting for 10 dps?

That's your CPU.


what is my cpu?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#64 - 2016-09-03 11:34:15 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

elitatwo wrote:
Video time:

Lazors

Its a nice vid but like all those vids it requires idiots to sit in optimal like they did and they only post the times it worked, appears once, take a look at all the rattles and rokhs he lost when it didn't work. There's quite a few.


lol called it
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2016-09-03 13:56:48 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
... i have 686dps first falloff is over 13k i have the tracking of small blasters why am i only hitting for 10 dps?

That's your CPU.


what is my cpu?

You do not have 13.5k optimal on small blasters. The 13.5 is the cpu required to fit the blasters.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Lugh Crow-Slave
#66 - 2016-09-03 14:06:50 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
... i have 686dps first falloff is over 13k i have the tracking of small blasters why am i only hitting for 10 dps?

That's your CPU.


what is my cpu?

You do not have 13.5k optimal on small blasters. The 13.5 is the cpu required to fit the blasters.



no my first fall off is 13.5k with the fit i am using

4.67k optimal + 9.15k falloff = 13.82k(i just rounded down) but i was right the first time it is only a meager 517 dps the 686 has a 8km 1st fall off
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
#67 - 2016-09-03 16:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
If cruisers and battleships receieved bonuses to rocket and missiles, then enemy frigates and destroyers would get blabbed easily, before they even put a dent in the Battleships insane armor.

Nope they wouldn't. Bonuses for small weapons on a large ship are small bonuses. If the Rokh got small blaster weapons bonus it would get a bonus of 1.1k optimal all the way to an amazing 1.6k optimal or .5k.

Bonuses scale with weapon size. A 50% optimal bonus (level 5 if 10% per level) on a large weapon is much bigger simply because large weapons have much larger range.


elitatwo wrote:
Video time:

Lazors

Its a nice vid but like all those vids it requires idiots to sit in optimal like they did and they only post the times it worked, appears once, take a look at all the rattles and rokhs he lost when it didn't work. There's quite a few.




Rokh an off example. To be honest in the past before hybrid buff I and others have blown off range bonuses to run laser or projectile rokh. case of the latter in the old days imo it was a negligible dps loss, you got back a fair amount of cap, better damage select ability on the ammo, and it threw people off. Not fleet spec, not always great but fun and sometimes pulled this off decent.

replace Rokh with megathron and we see where the fun begins. High tracking, now applied to smaller weapons. Traditionally the cruisers and BC's have been harder sells here. Diemost didn't get that nickname on accident. lolrox was half jest/half truth for the BC front as well. Same killing potential, now with more EHP...the ehp could be a bigger draw to bs.



We can also argue even large gun spec with enough e-war (local or via support) these can have some fun as is right now. Paints and webs galore, mega can hit stuff big and small. Will throw in vindi as well. Even when more expensive people ran gank hit squads based around these.