Intergalactic Summit

The Microprocessors are less than a percent of the cost of a Vendetta. Less than that for a Vanquisher. The only part of this that matters is they are doing market warfare to raise that cost at the benefit of the Serpentis and questionable State programs that need funding other than from clear and legal sources.

All while convincing themselves there is some "research" to be done and they are doing it in the best interests of New Eden.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and are beyond hope.

They are. Microprocessors. That have been optimized. To work in Serpentis ships.

There is literally nothing about them that is in anyway unclear, secretive, to be learned from, unique, rare, or in need of analysis. CONCORD conducted their analysis and in moments after the first ones were received update everyone's neocom with literally everything about them there is to learn.
Serpentis Modified Capital Microprocessor: This heavily customized tactical processing unit was designed by Guardian Angel engineers for the use in Serpentis capital ships. It contains special optimizations for improved fire control routines and precise stasis webifier operation.
Jaret Victorian, convinced that the 4.56mm wrench is some stunning breakthrough, continues to believe that further study will lead to results instead of accepting the fact he does not know the implications of what his corporation is doing or what he is looking at.

It is a different sized wrench.

I would just ignore her, Jaret. Seems years of never leaving her Nyx supplied to her by her overlords has left the capsule ectoplasm a little on the salty side. Big, bad ARC making her life a little harder seems to have increased the salt concentration in the fluids. It is pitiful, really. I've observed her behavior spiral downwards uncontrollably over the years...from passionate and stalwart to frothing at the mouth and spewing vitriol in just about every recent comment she has made on this communication network.

And, in fact, it would have been a requirement to join, having not been grandfathered in during a political acquisition of a corporation like Bat Country. However, it's incorrect to say that we subsidize supercapitals - we don't. We replace supercapitals lost in the service of the Alliance, but there's been no supercapital subsidy for a number of years now.

It is kind of odd to see the argument that optimized microprocessors can't be studied, though. As you say, these things are valuable because microprocessors optimized in this way are limited in supply, and that value is flowing primarily into the hands of the sole producers, the Angel Cartel's Guardian Angels. The methods of optimization can certainly be scrutinized for duplication by State engineers, though of course, the State's never shown any interest in reverse-engineering Republic or Federation webbing technology improvements. Regardless, distributing more of the microprocessors to more engineering labs throughout the State can only hasten any reverse-engineering they care to do, and increase the likelihood that more suppliers will arise to lower prices, funnel profits away from the Angels, and increase supply.

At the same time, the fact that these microprocessors are optimized for one thing doesn't mean that optimization holds no lessons for other optimizations as well. Improved fire control in capital ships might be useful for improved fire control in emplacements, as well, or for enabling the design of battleships that carry what we currently consider to be capital-scale weapons, like scaled-up developments of the Attack Battlecruisers. Pocket Dreadnaughts, as it were. Comparing the optimizations for the effectiveness of the webifiers with similar optimizations in the Republic designs, focusing on the range of the webifier, might lead to the development of far better webbers, or even reliable webbing emplacements intended to speed freight vessels into warp off of a stargate.

There's always something to learn from existing technology. Further study of a particular, exceptional 4.56mm wrench might well provide a window into the means for producing that exceptional wrench, and so improve all wrenches.

It is not in fact a requirement to join. I did however assume the supercapital subsidy was a past program not present, I failed to properly express what I meant.

Reverse engineering the microprocessors has already been done, as I said before they are not any different than a microprocessor optimized to process information from specialized electronic counter measure systems or specialized data processing systems. It is not vanguard technology Arrendis.

I wonder do you think that the State will want to re-tool microprocessor factories that build perhaps, automated transit system regulation processors used in hundreds of star systems by hundreds of corporations so they can dilute the hold the Angel Cartel has on the Serpentis Capital and Supercapital market? What kind of sense does that make? No. they will use them for what they are most valuable as: a commodity easily tradeable for ISK and difficult or impossible to trace.

What is to be learned from them is only what we already know. What is already in use all over New Eden in other Serpentis ships. You like everyone else in this thread is ignoring the fact that a large amount of Serpentis assets are being handed to the State with only the State and Serpentis to gain by pretending these processors are vanguard, unique or proprietary technology. They are in-fact just a specialized and limited supply part.

Tell me what is proprietary and worth researching about the 4.5mm wrench compared to the 4.6mm or compared to the 4.4mm
It is not "exceptional" Arrendis. It is a different size.

My question is this if you replaced ARC with a federal aligned corporation and Serpentis with Guristas would you have the same support for said corporation to give the federation 500,000 Guristas Modified Capital Microprocessors

Mr. Liberator; ARC would either participate or launch a competing venture, in that case. If their or our venture were successful in achieving some result, then we'd give such praise as was appropriate.

Admittedly, I know I've been rather outspoken in addressing some of parties in the Villore Accords, moreso than I really ought to be; still, we invite the interest of others in operations such as ours, and know that not all parties will wish to fly with us.

That said, ARC's operations are public. While during the evolution of ARC we've passed through various stages, at this point we've had pilots with all militias on our operations, often while they were actively enrolled in the war. We don't discriminate, and we pay all pilots equally.

Microprocessor architecture is nothing to scuff at! Sure, we may know what this or that Microprocessor does on a ship at a give time, but do we know HOW they do their function? And can we find it out with right amount of reverse engineering?

I mean, this data in the right hands could bring about the next wave of high tech available to our ships, so why make such a fuss about research that might end in a dead end anyways?

I am not asking you to donate anything nor do I care what your arbitrarily chosen "representative" corporations have said or not said. My suggestion is to sell on the open market for a literal and direct profit to your corporation. You mistake the business model of the Serpentis in jest perhaps, but you should know that by disposing of these microprocessors that were stolen from them you help them to recoup losses. You make those that remain more valuable. You are fully aware that this Capital and Supercapital technology was released prematurely because of the offensive earlier this year against them. By withholding them you are simply helping them return to their timeline and lessening the impact of their losses taken.

You make the same mistake as others in this thread by calling these microprocessors "novel," they are not. The fire control and stasis webifying optimized processor has been a component of Serpentis ships for literal decades. This is simply the first iteration designed for Capitals and Supercapitals, nothing more. The fire control systems are optimized pathways in a circuit. I assume that the State already knows full well how to optimize a circuit path in a processor and are not benefited by owning processors where that optimized path is partnered with a stasis web pathway optimization. No, actually you will find that too is not in any way "novel."

The advancements of faction ships are in fact material ones. The Moa is not inferior to the Gila because the Caldari State is incapable of producing a platform that accomplishes the same design goals. It is because instead of being reinforced with composites with a higher tensile strength that are more expensive to produce and require materials sourced from the Federation it is made of far less expensive, easier to replace steels made in Lonetrek. The Revanant too you will find is made of different materials to a different design than an Aeon. While there are unique technologies in use in all faction ships it is ignorant to think that they are like the limited issue prototype ships such as the Rabisu. When those technologies are in full production and incorporated into the Dagon I assure you they will not be a critical matter of industrial espionage by the various empires of New Eden any more than they are frantically going over the components of the Rupture today. Nor will their design philosophy convince the Caldari State to re-build their entire capital fleet with capacitors and capacitor induction systems to optimize energy nosferatus fitted to them.

You have spent so much time as a discoverer of of the new that perhaps you have forgotten the climb over one another that innovates when no new technologies are being stumbled upon from an outside source. The microprocessors are simply a bottleneck component that I seriously doubt anyone is going to take the extreme cost of re-tooling to manufacture just to compete with the Angel Cartel Makoto. If they do I doubt they will make a superior product. I doubt the Cartel will allow them to operate long.

Where you got the idea I was now or ever asking for any charitable action is a mystery. My appeal has always been for YOU to sell those processors on the market for the billions of ISK they are worth instead of handing them over to those who have no use for them but to trade in them at your charity. I am sure that every pilot in your corporation and who donated to you would be more than happy to have made a profit over what they could have sold them for individually at initial prices.

Why you feel I would start competing with you to hand over bottleneck components to someone else to profit from is even more baffling.

If you are so insistent on letting the Serpentis regain some of what they lost by your limiting of a bottleneck component, if you are so set on increasing the value of Guardian Angel factories and Serpentis warehouses by letting the CEP decide how to spend the profit from the work you and your benefactors did; Have the processors engraved with serial numbers.

So when they start to pop up in places other than labs who expect no innovation the threads can be followed back.

Jade Constantine would be proud of you, Ayallah.

Anyway, that is a big wall of words coming from someone who claims their entire purpose for the continuous arguing of erroneous points is all just to try and convince ARC to sell the microprocessors on the open market. The bottom line is, even if this intention was genuine, why does it matter to you? You are not in ARC, nor are you an ARC coordinator. You have no say in how ARC conducts its business, and, I'm sure, your opinions on how they should conduct their business have about the same amount of relevance as a fedo on some backwater mining outpost.