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[ARC] Serpentis capital technology transfer

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2016-08-26 16:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Pilots;

The Arataka Research Consortium is completing final logistical arrangements for the transfer of over 530 thousand samples of Serpentis-modified capital microprocessors to the Caldari State, a cache of advanced technology valued at approximately a quarter of a trillion ISK.

While it had been a desired to distribute this technology more widely, our contractors generally preferred payment in ISK to donation; with ARC purchasing these materials outright, we are under no fiduciary obligation to the Republic or Federation, and feel it would be irresponsible to make a direct transfer to them given that our primary financier has demonstrated a desire to further the State’s interests. Sadly, Capsuleer organizations representing these bodies have not demonstrated an interest in establishing competitive programs for their respective states.

Negotiations are on-going for a supplemental technology transfer, using materials gathered by Ishuk-Raata-associated Capsuleers in Syndicate.

I would personally like to thank pilots Avio Yaken, Jaret Victorian and Ollie Rundle for their assistance in this matter. Pilot Yaken was our most prolific direct contractor for this operation, while pilots Victorian and Rundle assisted with our distributed acquisition efforts. I would also like to thank our financier; while ARC was able to dedicate approximately 100b ISK to this effort, our direct contribution was overshadowed by the considerable contributions of this party.

At this time, these materials have been contracted to Odo Hakaalen at the Caldari Executive Panel headquarters in orbit of New Caldari Prime for handling, redistribution, and relicensing. It is our understanding that the State will handle this in a responsible manner, ensuring access to the Amarr Empire and compliance with DED rules on access to military technology.

Please feel free to address any questions or concerns to this thread.

In service,
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries

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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#2 - 2016-08-26 17:01:08 UTC
I applaud my colleague Makoto Priano and the ARC for their efforts on these fronts. I look forward to seeing what benefits come from this transfer.

For Ishukone. For the State.

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Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-08-26 18:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
If you were smart you would delete the contract and sell them on open market or keep them for later. Building Serpentis Supercapitals is extraordinarily expensive and is only going to get more so. Especially if you withhold half a million of them from the open market.

You are actually making my life worse right now.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2016-08-26 18:04:12 UTC
If I said decreasing availability of Serpentis materiel wasn't a happy benefit of this, I'd be lying.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2016-08-26 18:39:28 UTC
Feel good news in every way.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Zekiel Iyhr
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2016-08-26 19:03:50 UTC
Well done.
Avio Yaken
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#7 - 2016-08-26 20:42:30 UTC
Was a pleasure doing business with you Ms.Priano. Hopefully you felt the payment you gave me was worthwhile.

I like happy customers as much as i like the kredits. If theres ever another material ARC requires then perhaps we can do further business.


(.___________________________________________.)/

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-08-26 22:53:15 UTC
You already know that it is the Federation that has the most to gain from information on the Serpentis as they are the ones at constant war with them.

May as well deliver intelligence on the Guristas to the Empire.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#9 - 2016-08-26 23:09:48 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
You already know that it is the Federation that has the most to gain from information on the Serpentis as they are the ones at constant war with them.

May as well deliver intelligence on the Guristas to the Empire.


I think that might be the point of this.

Given State & Federal authorities are talking to each other these days nothing stops them from bargaining for a share of these items. And improving the State's negotiating position is exactly what a State loyal organisation would be seeking to do, no?

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-08-27 03:55:00 UTC
I was mistaken. It was unfair of me to consider -ARC- beholden to the standards of what is best for all as opposed to what is best for themselves and the State. I had no reason to object except maybe some unrealized feeling that -ARC- was the spiritual successor to Arek'Jaalan and should be held to the standards of a neutral entity. They are not and I retract my statement.

It would be just as unfair for Mokoto to ask why I did not fight to defend Home as for me to ask why they do not instead donate to the Federation.

Thank you Arnulf, as always for your clarity.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2016-08-27 04:28:43 UTC
The best thing for the Cluster is for these materials to be studied and re-purposed as quickly as possible. ARC facilitated just that.

An analysis of high tech components, understanding of their mechanics, and the expedited production of the resulting technologies? I choose the State to do that work above the other empires any day of the week.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-08-27 04:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Give the materials to the Thukkers and they will make something useful out of them within a month or six. Sure, the result will probably come out brown and rusted and very unsafe-looking but I assure you they won't explode and they will do something.

Whatever that something is.

I don't know.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-08-27 07:22:18 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
The best thing for the Cluster is for these materials to be studied and re-purposed as quickly as possible. ARC facilitated just that.

An analysis of high tech components, understanding of their mechanics, and the expedited production of the resulting technologies? I choose the State to do that work above the other empires any day of the week.

My Lord, I will point out that the Empire had the first tactical destroyer and the first FAX hull in production. I am not saying the Caldari are not good at this, just not to sell the Amarr short.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-08-27 13:54:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
An analysis of high tech components, understanding of their mechanics, and the expedited production of the resulting technologies? I choose the State to do that work above the other empires any day of the week.
It is clear you are not educated on either the function or source of these microprocessors. No analysis needs to be done, their function is apparent and straightforward. The technology used to produce them is in no way limited in scope only in what resources the producer has. The only production of expedited technologies is the production of Serpentis capital ships and the fastest way to ensure that is to put them on the open market so they can be immediately used to do so.

Serpentis Modified Capital Microprocessor: This heavily customized tactical processing unit was designed by Guardian Angel engineers for the use in Serpentis capital ships. It contains special optimizations for improved fire control routines and precise stasis webifier operation.


These are specialized microprocessors with optimized pathways. Nothing more. They are expensive to produce and highly specialized and that makes them a commodity. There is no mystery or secretive technology behind them, they are a specialized tool. A hundred years of research on them would reveal what a two second analysis does: they are processors optimized for a specific function.

Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
The best thing for the Cluster is for these materials to be studied and re-purposed as quickly as possible. ARC facilitated just that.
No, they did not. I have already told you there is literally no reason to study them further now use your financial degrees and tell me how storing a commodity in a warehouse is "re-purposing them as quickly as possible." The CEP is not going to start the production of Serpentis capital ships Ibrahim. These processors have one singular function which is what makes them valuable. There is no re-purposing them and there is no faster way to have them put to use than to sell them on open market.

ARC is not facilitating a damn thing. They are not "doing what is best for the cluster." They are doing what is best for the State, The Serpentis and their agents, and the Guardian Angels. They are going to hand the State an un-tracable and deniable commodity or they are going to use them to finance operations or ventures that require payment in forms that do not lead back to the State. If the State is not going to build Serpentis capitals then they are either going to store and sell the microprocessors at a later date or destroy them.

Tell me Ibrahim, Master of Science in Finance. What happens when you take a limited and finite commodity and remove a section from the supply pool? The price of the remaining assets go up.

Who has the most to gain from that. From a highly specialized and highly in demand microprocessor commissioned by the Serpentis and designed and built solely by the Guardian Angels being a more limited commodity? I will give you a hint, Serpentis agents right now are drooling as the price rises. The Guardian Angels are now smiling as their factories produce these microprocessors that are worth more the the fewer they make. The Serpentis are laughing as a capsuleer helps them to reverse the massive financial loss of the offensive against them by making every microprocessor in their warehouses worth more and more every single day.

https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?sethours=24&setminQ=0&typeid=42226

What happens to a market when the supply is limited Ibrahim. What happens to a market when it is flooded with supply. I did not attend Hedion University but even I understand this most simple of concepts when it comes to trading in commodities.

What you, Mokoto, Korsavius, and Pieter are celebrating is the raising of Serpentis stock and the handing of that stock to the State so they can deal with it as they wish under the table. From the Caldari capsuleers who gain from seeing an enemy of the Federation benefit and more deniable funds in the hands of the CEP I expected this.

But from a Master of Science in Finance claiming that this is in the best interests of peace and New Eden I expected condemnation. Not ignorant endorsement. If what they wanted to do was harm the Serpentis they would dump their massive supply on the market and crash the supply. If they wanted to serve the political and financial interests of the State then they would give them 500,000 of them to store and sell.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2016-08-27 15:06:27 UTC
If the Serpentis wanted to make a profit off of this commodity, there are far more efficient ways to distribute the microprocessors than embed them within their own ships and facilities. As the sole supplier they could just, you know, sell them at whatever price they wanted.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2016-08-27 15:15:23 UTC
The entire reason they are valuable is because they are ..."embedded" in their ships Karmilla. And they will be selling them at the price they want alongside their ship blueprints.

A price much higher than the price of a bloated supply of them brought on by a major offensive seizing thousands of them from storage locations all over new eden.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#17 - 2016-08-27 15:26:12 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
What you, Mokoto, Korsavius, and Pieter are celebrating is the raising of Serpentis stock and the handing of that stock to the State so they can deal with it as they wish under the table. From the Caldari capsuleers who gain from seeing an enemy of the Federation benefit and more deniable funds in the hands of the CEP I expected this.

But from a Master of Science in Finance claiming that this is in the best interests of peace and New Eden I expected condemnation. Not ignorant endorsement. If what they wanted to do was harm the Serpentis they would dump their massive supply on the market and crash the supply. If they wanted to serve the political and financial interests of the State then they would give them 500,000 of them to store and sell.


So, if I understand you correctly, you suggest this stockpile should be sold on the open market? I don't see how this will help, exactly. Serpentis can already literally print these chips.

We secured a large portion of what was traded recently. We brought it to the State so they could study it and maybe use it against pirates, to protect civilians, to enhance the Navy. I can't see how this is wrong, can you explain it to me?

Ayallah wrote:
I was mistaken. It was unfair of me to consider -ARC- beholden to the standards of what is best for all as opposed to what is best for themselves and the State. I had no reason to object except maybe some unrealized feeling that -ARC- was the spiritual successor to Arek'Jaalan and should be held to the standards of a neutral entity. They are not and I retract my statement.

Knowledge and information is useless if it just sits there, in the library. You have to use it, transparently, so it can bear fruit. If other parties do not respond to offers or express interest, we should do so ourselves. I would very much like to call a summit on this matter, bring the reps from each Empire and discuss how the information we are willing to share can be exploited to make the cluster we live in a better place. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. We are still running around with a solution to Drifter problem while CONCORD asks capsuleers to just throw more bodies at them. See?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#18 - 2016-08-27 15:41:26 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:

So, if I understand you correctly, you suggest this stockpile should be sold on the open market? I don't see how this will help, exactly. Serpentis can already literally print these chips.

We secured a large portion of what was traded recently. We brought it to the State so they could study it and maybe use it against pirates, to protect civilians, to enhance the Navy. I can't see how this is wrong, can you explain it to me?


Her alliance tag should tell you everything you need to know. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, I don't disagree with her, either - this directly makes the lives of some nullsec capsuleers harder. I just don't agree that that should matter. We already fling trillions of ISK around out here. We can stand to have it a little challenging when it comes to buying the newest, shiniest toys.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#19 - 2016-08-27 15:45:01 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

Her alliance tag should tell you everything you need to know. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, I don't disagree with her, either - this directly makes the lives of some nullsec capsuleers harder. I just don't agree that that should matter. We already fling trillions of ISK around out here. We can stand to have it a little challenging when it comes to buying the newest, shiniest toys.

Ah yes, I've heard some of you guys blew up some thousands of people in a Keepstar for fun.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-08-27 15:53:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Jaret Victorian wrote:
So, if I understand you correctly, you suggest this stockpile should be sold on the open market? I don't see how this will help, exactly. Serpentis can already literally print these chips.

We secured a large portion of what was traded recently. We brought it to the State so they could study it and maybe use it against pirates, to protect civilians, to enhance the Navy. I can't see how this is wrong, can you explain it to me?

Knowledge and information is useless if it just sits there, in the library. You have to use it, transparently, so it can bear fruit. If other parties do not respond to offers or express interest, we should do so ourselves. I would very much like to call a summit on this matter, bring the reps from each Empire and discuss how the information we are willing to share can be exploited to make the cluster we live in a better place. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. We are still running around with a solution to Drifter problem while CONCORD asks capsuleers to just throw more bodies at them. See?


How is a processor designed solely to operate with Serpentis webifier projectors and fire control systems supposed to be studied and "used against them to enhance the Navy."

What you and the other people blindly supporting this do not seem to understand is what these processors even are. They are in no way special, or unusual, or secret they are specialized and difficult to manufacture without re-tooling. No one else has anything to gain from building them at the scale the Guardian Angels do because they are only effective in serpentis capital ships.

It is like you people found a 4.56 mm diameter wrench and are all marveling at its rarity and wishing to "study it to protect civilians and enhance the navy." when all actuality the only thing its good for is the 4.56mm bolts on Serpentis ships. It is not some mystical advanced and new technology. It is exactly the same thing as the 4.5mm wrenches the Federation use or the 4.0mm wrenches the State uses. It is just meant to do a different thing. No one else makes them because they only work on Serpentis ships

They are valuable because people want to build Serpentis ships. The Serpentis want their ships to be as expensive as possible so they can make the most profit. The only way to harm the Serpentis is this is to flood the market and make them worthless lowering the profit of the Serpentis. The only way to use them is in a Serpentis capital ship.

There is no research, it is a microprocessor. There are microprocessors built with the same principles and the same materials being used in billions of applications all across New Eden. Would you people relish the idea of getting your hands on microprocessors specialized to handle water purification filtration systems to "research?" No. Because you would recognize it is nothing but a specialized part and completely worthless outside the system if fits into. Literally scrap for anything other than its function.

But it is more comforting to think that your shipment of 4.56mm wrenches will somehow win the war against the Serpentis than to face the reality that they only and solely have value if used to loosen or tighten a 4.56mm fastener. Best not look too far into who profits financially by handing over the crate of them you found.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

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