EVE General Discussion

Ah, you took it.

Well, that's what I'd consider a good post. Curiosity! ;)
I like that.

And it's not about small brains, it's about spending more time for digging into deeper thoughts. :)
It's more of applied philosophy combined with both past, present and verly-likely-future history.

I'm not sure I can actually address all of your points here.

1. beliefs. That's an interesting way to word it.
2. Yes, the new player argument. The vast majority that uses it ... uses it wrong. You didn't! Well done. :)

3. Another fair question! I really like that you figured out things that actually matter and are able to express them so properly.
It kind of reads really smoothly, covering possibly everything. ^_^

Anyhow ...

Oh they'll love it! Obviously a slight shift will occur, as is natural due to the nature of the beast! Still, there is a part of the demographic we all often ignore, at least here on the forums. That's the part who doesn't mind and joined because they could get killed. Think of former elite and X players, as examples. Looking for "the bigger one" that's not a single player experience.

Here, though, the primary is that CCP promotes their game as such an environment.
Always has, always will. It's one of their selling points!
And they don't have to share it with any other company out there! :)

As there's only a miniscule amount of people getting ganked ...
... compared to people being around ...
... we can safely assume that the vast majority of people at least doesn't care ...
... or is exactly what they want! (as long as it doesn't hit them personally ;)

I started writing a paragraph about business opportunities emerging, but it's unncessary.

Any extreme idea of permaganking everywhere is - to say the least - silly ...
... because eventually it would be too boring even for the gankers!

As a collective they're smarter than that!

When all that's left are gankers ...
... then no one ganks ...
... because everyone ganks. ;)



Plus! There's people who would fight back!
Even White Knights would start fighting back!

Because they could! It would be ******* glorious! :D

Industrials would have escorts, always ready for the outlier who might attack!
Because there will always be outliers... (:




"What about mission running?"

Ha! Good question, Sol!
- Thank you, Sol! :)


What. About. It. :)


This question leads into the "how" ... and that's another thread. :)

See, the "how" is a huge issue. I'm blindly assuming that the vast majority of the opposition will automatically assuming "drastic change" ... obviously, because it's the worst of all possible ones to pick from.

Luckily that's not how things work.


edit: heh, i clicked POST before I was done somehow.

Did I properly get across what you wanted to know?
Because your questions are really hard to answer.
And actually bullshit questions ruining all the fun in it. :)

Yes, I didn't mention any changes I would make, because that's not how it works.
You try to somehow make this about me, which is nonsense, because I'm not a central figure.

I wouldn't even need to be involved, but it wouldn't hurt!


I noticed you attempted to do that in the other post already.

In some sense are you asking me questions I wouldn't even be able to answer ...
... because that's not how things work.


And you pick specific examples out of your own bias.


It's not how things work and either you'll learn it soon enough or you don't learn it at all.


You have to use your brain ...
... and wait just like everyone else!

Why then complaining, how things are, when you don't have ideas, how to change the system.

That is how revolution works. In case you want to start one.

If not, then i don't get the point of this thread other then ranting.

Ok, ok, i guess i have to read the whole thread again to understand it. But later. Now i have to sleep, so i can work tonight.

Good day.

so what happened to your avatar? Change or revolution? you change it so often that my mind can't keep it up.
literally worse than a woman

a lot of things actually! *seriously, sad face*
but on topic changing so many times the avatar can be considered in many ways!
who knows! maybe aliens hacked your account and took your place!

i think i'll submit a ticket to ccp to investigate this eventuality

TLDR;
"If I hurt someone I have to pay the price for my crime and I don't like it!!! Waahhh!"

Some time back I was trying to think how bounties could be made genuinely useful and that led to an idea you may like. The idea, though, had exploits and workarounds large enough to fly a Leviathan through, so I haven't bothered writing it up. Maybe cleverer people than myself can make the flaws go away. I'll message it to you for comment before I post it.

... those links don't open?

I wrote a huge post and now it's all gone.
Haha, **** this ****! -.-

I'll condense.

You're nuts for saying carebears create and PvPers destroy.
PvPers also mine and do PvE! You apply carebear logic!
PvPers also create. Carebears NEVER destroy!

Notgonnarewritethewholeshitagaingrmlgrml

I can't help but notice that your posts have taken on a surreal and bizarre nature.

In the end, I'll just reiterate the following:

You are wrong. CONCORD does not have a monopoly on violence in HS. CODE. and other ganking groups prove this each and every day.

Yes, I am acutely aware of these things. However, CONCORD does not have a monopoly. If somebody does something that will elicit a response from CONCORD I to can also respond if I am in the vicinity. The only difference is that CONCORD is obligated to respond and will do so where I can respond or not.

The inability to fight back in the face of the overwhelming force CONCORD can bring does not make them a monopoly. It makes them extremely powerful, but that power is also extremely limited by the mechanics CCP has set up. There is a response time and as such players who are well aware of the mechanics can use that to their benefit.

Another example is war decs. In HS this allows players to use violence against other players at their discretion without interference from CONCORD.

There are also other timers that can allow players to "legally" use violence against another player as well.

CONCORD does not have a monopoly on violence. If anything they have an obligation to use violence against those who use violence illegally.