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SWTOR killing EvE?

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Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#61 - 2011-12-21 19:32:55 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
More on this story, tomorrow morning.

You going to go sleep as well?

oh man, this game is dying


Being asleep hasn't ever kept anyone from playing EvE, has it?
Damian Goddard
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2011-12-21 20:05:56 UTC
Actually, I think SWTOR is good for Eve. SWTOR offers the style of gameplay that will attract the kind of people that Eve can do without. Ironically, I did not re-sub to Eve until I tried out SWTOR in one of the late betas. After playing it for about 30 mins, I knew it lacked pretty much everything I wanted in a space MMO (and SWTOR really is not a space MMO. It is a scfi MMO, but space has very little to do with it). Not long after that, I got the email about Crucible, and here I am again, after about 6 years of having not even thought about the game, much less having played it.

Eve is more for the people who want the mindless click-click-level experience without much challenge. It actually probably appeals to casual gamers more than most other MMOs, it is that lacking in any real depth. You can't grind/power level in Eve. That alone will act as a filter for people who have been playing Eve waiting for something like SWTOR.

And let me just say, the one huge red flag I saw in SWTOR (and I have been told a lot of MMOs are like this these days) was that most of the loot that drops is completely irrelevant. It's only purpose is giving you something to sell. There is no other use for it How lazy is that?? Is that really how MMOs are these days? Last one I played before Eve was EQ.
Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2011-12-21 20:11:11 UTC
This just in!

Pornography is killing EvE!
Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#64 - 2011-12-21 20:15:45 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3

Roll


i love you CCP

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Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#65 - 2011-12-21 20:20:37 UTC
Star Wow: Knights of the Old Hordepublic (which I am playing, for the record) will hurt Warcraft far more than EVE.

Because StarWoW is a mainstream, big IP, major marketshare type product, and it's good enough.

EVE is a VERY fringe product, with as hardcore a userbase as MMO's get.

Many longtimers leave, most come back.

EVE may lose a few thousand online for a few months, but it won;t take a mjaor hit.

WoW, on the other hand, should lose 1-3 million more Subs in the next 2-3 months.

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#66 - 2011-12-21 20:21:56 UTC
how can a comic kill a submarine simulator?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

LtCol Laurentius
The Imperial Sardaukar
#67 - 2011-12-21 20:26:34 UTC
Themepark MMOs like SWTOR relies on a high user turnover to turn a profit, as most people get tired of the game after a few months. So even if a lot of current EVE players is playing SWTOR atm (like quite a few played World of Tanks last year), they'll be back. Besides, EVE politics & drama is heating up again, and will generate renewed interest.
Iche He'Tvo
Sonic Industries
#68 - 2011-12-21 20:32:55 UTC
If you like little choice and being led by the nose than SWOR is for you. This is not the sandbox [limited as it was] that SWG was and does not lend its self to a long term limitless play style we have come to expect from EVE. The graphics are nice but I can live without the rehash of the same locked in story base and will keep on playing with the EMU SWG for a planet running diversion.

Thank you CCP for an engaging and interesting sandbox to play in and for not following everyone else keep up the good work
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2011-12-21 20:40:58 UTC
http://twitpic.com/7tdxvm

SW:TOR 1
EVE Online 0

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#70 - 2011-12-21 20:41:33 UTC
Having a life will kill all MMOs.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#71 - 2011-12-21 21:00:04 UTC
Kelsi Corynn wrote:

EVE is at a point where the only thing that could (currently) kill it is its own players or CCP, or some convoluted combination of both. The game market has yet to produce a suitable substitute for this niche.


CCP has been trying to kill EVE for years now, they still haven't succeeded (although they came close with Incarna).

Oblivion, Skyrim, SWtOR, various FPS games, etc. are where I go to blow off steam for a few hours/days, but I live for EVE. TOR is nice and has some nice improvements over WoW/AoC, but also has some lacking bits.

Unlike WoW/AoC, the cities in TOR do not feel immersive. Coruscant is extremely boring with its wide open areas and no places to explore. All of the rooms that look like they'd be interesting are generally locked behind instance portals. There's no sense of "this is where people sleep, this is where they eat, this is where they idle" other then the cantinas. Lots of locked doors around, but it all feels barren.

Not to mention the rather simplistic economy and manufacturing system in TOR along with the magic mailboxes and gear that lasts forever, even if you die.
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#72 - 2011-12-21 21:07:23 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Quit Whining wrote:

How many people do you think will be playing Skyrim for as many years as they've maintained their EVE characters?

Weeeell… people are stil plating Morriwind, but that's probably because it's the best in the TES series. P



This this this, a thousand times this. I'll be playing Morrowind long after I've exhausted Skyrim.
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
#73 - 2011-12-21 21:27:37 UTC
Eve will still be around when SWTOR is long dead. Has always been this way with other great MMOS and SWTOR isnt great enough to change anything.
Ezekiel DeSangre
#74 - 2011-12-21 21:32:18 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
Kelsi Corynn wrote:
EVE is at a point where the only thing that could (currently) kill it is its own players or CCP, or some convoluted combination of both. The game market has yet to produce a suitable substitute for this niche.


True. True.

“The salient feature of the games is that, as violent as they are, the player is removed from any actual physical threat. This has a profound influence on a player's tactical decision making. What cover does a soldier/player take, what rate of fire do they select, and at what range do they engage with the enemy when their avatar never "fatigues, never runs out of ammo, and simply "re-spawns" if killed?”
~ linky


Interesting read. They should have taken a closer look at eve imo.

Meh..

5p4c3 Truck3r
Carried Hate
#75 - 2011-12-21 21:33:21 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3

Roll



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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#76 - 2011-12-21 21:43:44 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
http://twitpic.com/7tdxvm

SW:TOR 1
EVE Online 0

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Sad

That pic makes me very sad, I miss Stevie_SG.

Still, it's good to see her having fun... and looking good doing it. Smile

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Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#77 - 2011-12-21 21:48:05 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Early reports indicate that "Going To Sleep at Night" is stealing players from EVE Online.


LOL, nicely done!

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2011-12-21 21:49:29 UTC
It has pretty much decimated the corp (sic) my "main" (sic) is in.
Not really an Earth-shattering loss since it was little more than a chat client with spaceships.
The few who still log in have set up a SWTOR guild and report the others are there waiting and ready.

I'm going to hold out until I have conclusive proof SWTOR is more than WOW with light-sabers.


Endeavour Starfleet
#79 - 2011-12-21 21:49:29 UTC
Star Trek Online has a more lasting amount of pull away from EVE than TOR.

No offense yet the more I play TOR the more it flatly sucks even compared to KOTOR. The running around over and over for small potatoes missions is getting boring FAST. And I will not be subbing after my month is up until things get ALOT better. (I had said 3 months but I doubt they can fix everything needed in that time)

Did EA seriously spend more money than the SW movies to "Try" to make a WoW clone? They should have ripped off EVE's Sandbox system not WoW.
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#80 - 2011-12-21 21:51:20 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
http://twitpic.com/7tdxvm

SW:TOR 1
EVE Online 0

SadSadSadSadSad

traitor

Not a veteran, just bitter..