Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There already is a CIWS, it's called a Missile Disruptor (Ok, so I'm one of those people who think the two disruptors should be one module but hey). Or a smart bomb.
Defender missiles should just be removed. They've never worked well, the only place they 'work' is on NPC's in missions to mess with missile users.

Honestly, this. Between defender missiles and FoF missiles, I can't really decide which one is more uesless.

so like a crap smart bomb?



so like a literal smart bomb?

I think they just need to shoot drones too.

Smartbombs while can be used as a missile-defense system, they are extreme short range offensive weapons, which deal damage to everything except the ship they fitted on, including your fleet members. Also they are "not recommended" to use in hi-sec. The CIWS is clearly a defensive system, you can't use it against anyone.


Point defense systems on ships used to be called CIWS.


In my concept large and capital modules can.
I thought it would be a bit over powered to allow this on small and medium versions too, especially because small and medium guns usually can hit drones just fine. This would need an actual test to decide.


Good point though, why are these called smart bombs exactly? What would do a dumb bomb? Also deal damage to the ship it is fitted on?

Delete defender missiles, no one uses them, no one will miss them.

What is your intended purpose if you cannot keep 3km distance to whatever might get hurt?

Research this thing called..... Firewalls for fleets.

Maybe a missile defense field would be better. A missile defense field would be a Mid Slot module in one of the four types of damages. You could fit only one Missile Defense Field Module to a ship. The module would have a cycle time similar to shield and armor reppers that could be reduced with training and rigs. When activated the module would project a field starting out at 5 km around the ship. Any missile matching the field type of the defense module would have a chance to be destroyed based on other skills trained. The percentage that a missile would be destroyed would top out at 75% and deflected and considered a miss topping out at 80%. A destroyed missile would cause damage to the module itself compared to a deflected missile that would not cause any damage to the module.

The main use for defender missiles should not be damage mitigation for yourself, but damage mitigation for your fleet. Tackle and control ships that do very little damage anyway should be able to fit them to allow increased safety for fleetmates and themselves as they shoot down missiles. Since missiles basically always hit they would be the only real system to make it possible for total damage mitigation. It's function could be seen as similar to a Missile Disruptors but, as with auto targeting missiles, no targeting is necessary, allowing the ship to completely focus on their tackle target, and situation. Since these tacklers need many of their mid slots for their role, the fact that these use high slots instead makes this especially possible.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently I think defender missiles only hit missiles that are inbound for yourself, and with linked volleys they never hit all missiles in the volley, either due to a miss percentage or multiple missiles targeting to destroy the same missile, so total damage mitigation is essentially impossible. Obviously to become worthwhile they would need a standby mode so that they can auto shoot at missiles that come into range, and their intelligence needs to be increased to ensure that only 1 missile targets a missile. As for miss percentages, if the bugs of the system can be worked out to actually make them usable, then having 50% hit rate, that can increase to 75% with skills seems roughly valid.