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Cockchaos
Doomheim
#61 - 2016-08-16 00:43:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha

Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker.

Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules?


Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case.

Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol.

I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight.

So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont.

But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that allow CODE flourish, and that is it.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#62 - 2016-08-16 00:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha

Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker.

Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules?


Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case.

Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol.

I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why that when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight.

So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont.

But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that let CODE flourish, and that is it.

You came here for "feedback" but haven't read a word anybody wrote...Sounds like a troll thread to me...

You still think I'm a supporter of CODE. even...honestly man I tried to help you - I pointed out where CODE. is vulnerable...I gave you things you could do to hurt CODE. right now, in the REAL game...rather than waiting for CCP to magically swoop in and destroy them for you...

Even if I did perhaps get a little insulting once you made it clear you weren't interested in constructive criticism and were only here to troll...That is your own fault. And the saddest part is? I'm the closest thing to an ally you have in this entire thread buddy...think about that... I am the *only* one who even wasted my time trying to give you helpful advice/information...

You'll fare no better inside the game - so enjoy accomplishing nothing whatsoever.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#63 - 2016-08-16 01:01:01 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha

Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker.

Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules?


Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case.

Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol.

I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why that when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight.

So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont.

But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that let CODE flourish, and that is it.

You came here for "feedback" but haven't read a word anybody wrote...Sounds like a troll thread to me...

You still think I'm a supporter of CODE. even...honestly man I tried to help you - I pointed out where CODE. is vulnerable...I gave you things you could do to hurt CODE. right now, in the REAL game...rather than waiting for CCP to magically swoop in and destroy them for you...

Even if I did perhaps get a little insulting once you made it clear you weren't interested in constructive criticism and were only here to troll...That is your own fault. And the saddest part is? I'm the closest thing to an ally you have in this entire thread buddy...think about that... I am the *only* one who even wasted my time trying to give you helpful advice/information...

You'll fare no better inside the game - so enjoy accomplishing nothing whatsoever.




CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.

You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#64 - 2016-08-16 01:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Cockchaos wrote:
CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.

You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha
I never claimed to be part of the solution.

I'm not part of the problem either.

Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice.




And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me...

And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or effort, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#65 - 2016-08-16 01:05:02 UTC
fail OP is fail
#nukediscrap

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Cockchaos
Doomheim
#66 - 2016-08-16 01:06:02 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.

You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha
I never claimed to be part of the solution.

I'm not part of the problem either.

Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice.




And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me...

And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or efford, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said.



Wait, you said earlier that the changes that i feel need to be made would change nothing, now you are saying that they would destroy CODE? Which is it?
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#67 - 2016-08-16 01:07:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.

You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha
I never claimed to be part of the solution.

I'm not part of the problem either.

Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice.




And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me...

And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or efford, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said.



Wait, you said earlier that the changes that i feel need to be made would change nothing, now you are saying that they would destroy CODE? Which is it?

TBH I think they would adapt and use orcas/bowheads and it wouldn't affect them much - meaning you would still refuse to act and you would come right back here to the forums to demand that CCP remove their ability to board ships from fleet hangars or from space...

But in your mind clearly it would cripple and destroy them - you've made it pretty clear that is what you are demanding that CCP do for you...and that you won't lift a single finger until then.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#68 - 2016-08-16 01:13:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.

You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha
I never claimed to be part of the solution.

I'm not part of the problem either.

Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice.




And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me...

And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or efford, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said.



Wait, you said earlier that the changes that i feel need to be made would change nothing, now you are saying that they would destroy CODE? Which is it?

TBH I think they would adapt and use orcas/bowheads and it wouldn't affect them much - meaning you would still refuse to act and you would come right back here to the forums to demand that CCP remove their ability to board ships from fleet hangars or from space...

But in your mind clearly it would cripple and destroy them - you've made it pretty clear that is what you are demanding that CCP do for you...and that you won't lift a single finger until then.


I mentioned orcas earlier, every action in EVE should have consequence, its such a simple concept, but you are so bias to CODE you refuse to see that perspective. The orca pilot who dumps the ganker ship into space is just as guilty as the ganker who uses the ship and should be flagged as well, its that simple.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#69 - 2016-08-16 01:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Cockchaos wrote:
I mentioned orcas earlier, every action in EVE should have consequence, its such a simple concept, but you are so bias to CODE you refuse to see that perspective. The orca pilot who dumps the ganker ship into space is just as guilty as the ganker who uses the ship and should be flagged as well, its that simple.

And how do you propose they track that? Add tracking information to every ship?

Also, what would prevent me from talking some miner into letting me borrow a mining ship from his orca bay - then suiciding in it? That would kill his innocent orca, right? Trust me - people will do it.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#70 - 2016-08-16 01:17:45 UTC
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#71 - 2016-08-16 01:18:53 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.



I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#72 - 2016-08-16 01:20:30 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.



I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay

link kb or gtfo

afaik you're just another whiteknight (considering this awful troll alt of yours is 1 day old)
try harder

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#73 - 2016-08-16 01:21:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.



I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay

Bull S***.


edit:
#1 - You are clearly lying. You don't even know how suicide ganking works...
#2 - Even in your lies about being a suicide ganker - you claim to regret it and say it wasn't worth the cost to the game even then. Clearly you do *not* consider it a valuable part of the game, and you think CCP should remove it "for their own good".

You really are a ****ing awful liar...

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#74 - 2016-08-16 01:24:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.



I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay

Bull S***.



Already said i support ganking earlier, for profit hahaha, you get so worked up.

That is a good point about an orca dumping a ship, i guess the solution is being able to attack jettisoned ships without getting a flag maybe? Yes that would work.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#75 - 2016-08-16 01:33:16 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.



I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay

Bull S***.



Already said i support ganking earlier, for profit hahaha, you get so worked up.

That is a good point about an orca dumping a ship, i guess the solution is being able to attack jettisoned ships without getting a flag maybe? Yes that would work.

Read my addition above.

Although you *lied* and said you used to be a suicide ganker, you have never said you support ganking - only negative comments about it.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#76 - 2016-08-16 01:34:46 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.



I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay

Bull S***.


edit:
#1 - You are clearly lying. You don't even know how suicide ganking works...
#2 - Even in your lies about being a suicide ganker - you claim to regret it and say it wasn't worth the cost to the game even then. Clearly you do *not* consider it a valuable part of the game, and you think CCP should remove it "for their own good".

You really are a ****ing awful liar...


I do regret it, it was not my only source of income, i could have made that isk in other ways that didnt involve driving people to quit because I destroyed a good majority of their wealth. That said its still a valuable part of EVE, and should never be removed, in fact it should be easier. The problem is that players often cant retaliate against their attacker. That's what needs to be fixed. Like i said earlier, the solution isn't more ehp, its player ability to get revenge.

Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#77 - 2016-08-16 01:37:39 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
I do regret it, it was not my only source of income, i could have made that isk in other ways that didnt involve driving people to quit because I destroyed a good majority of their wealth. That said its still a valuable part of EVE, and should never be removed, in fact it should be easier. The problem is that players often cant retaliate against their attacker. That's what needs to be fixed. Like i said earlier, the solution isn't more ehp, its player ability to get revenge.

And yet when offered the opportunity to get revenge by destroying a multi-billion-isk Citadel...you say that isn't good enough, because it doesn't 100% destroy the Gankers and eradicate them from the game entirely... Make up your mind.

Also the fact still remains that CODE. as an organization ganks *for profit* - so if you support ganking for profit, you support CODE... You can't have it both ways.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#78 - 2016-08-16 01:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
I do regret it, it was not my only source of income, i could have made that isk in other ways that didnt involve driving people to quit because I destroyed a good majority of their wealth. That said its still a valuable part of EVE, and should never be removed, in fact it should be easier. The problem is that players often cant retaliate against their attacker. That's what needs to be fixed. Like i said earlier, the solution isn't more ehp, its player ability to get revenge.

And yet when offered the opportunity to get revenge by destroying a multi-billion-isk Citadel...you say that isn't good enough, because it doesn't 100% destroy the Gankers and eradicate them from the game entirely... Make up your mind.

Also the fact still remains that CODE. as an organization ganks *for profit* - so if you support ganking for profit, you support CODE... You can't have it both ways.



Refer to post #29

I can have it both ways, just because I support suicide ganking does not mean I have to support CODE. Im not a CODE sympathizer like you bud
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#79 - 2016-08-16 01:45:29 UTC
I read post #29 - you lied about how you used to gank people, and said they complained that they couldn't retaliate...


But see, against CODE. - You can't make the complaint that you can't retaliate. Because the painfully simple fact is that you *can* retaliate. They have lots of expensive destroyable assets anchored out in space for *anybody* who wants to retaliate against them.

Seriously, look at the killboard of "Nitshe Razvedka" who posted earlier in this thread. He destroyed *5 billion isk* of CODE. owned assets - and that is just his *alt*.

If people want revenge, they can take revenge. The assets are there, waiting to be destroyed.

The only excuse for not retaliating is that *you don't want to badly enough*. But you *have the option*. Which makes it *your choice* not to retaliate.


Which makes it all the more ridiculously transparent when you demand that CCP remove ganking from the game, because for all your talk you are too pathetic to even attempt any direct retaliation on your own, you want CCP to lead the charge with major mechanics changes to kill them all for you.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#80 - 2016-08-16 01:47:15 UTC
I mean look man - I don't like CODE. all that much. Their role-play is annoying, and their profit margin makes me jealous.

I sincerely hoped you wanted the retaliation you claimed to want - because I'm happy to help you get that...

But all you want is for CCP to retaliate for you and remove ganking....And well...I can't support that. Deal with it.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)