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Nitshe Razvedka
#21 - 2016-08-15 13:23:58 UTC
Mail me a list and I will personally finance their destruction.

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#22 - 2016-08-15 14:45:54 UTC
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)

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Nitshe Razvedka
#23 - 2016-08-15 15:15:06 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)





How is Sue Abott's Code alt doing these days Dom? Singing Falsetto after we emasculated his poco's?

Almost worth burning one of my alts to say: " être mauvaise joueureuse" on your codie TeamSpeak. But it seems you cop enough from your own team-mates. You are a delicate thing Dom, one would not want to bruise you unnecessarily.Blink

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Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#24 - 2016-08-15 15:36:35 UTC
Ah. Finally a thread not punting merc services. And then such a disappointment: It's about highsec ganking.

Somebody please come up with something original.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#25 - 2016-08-15 15:37:34 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)





How is Sue Abott's Code alt doing these days Dom? Singing Falsetto after we emasculated his poco's?

Almost worth burning one of my alts to say: " être mauvaise joueureuse" on your codie TeamSpeak. But it seems you cop enough from your own team-mates. You are a delicate thing Dom, one would not want to bruise you unnecessarily.Blink

You can keep your thoughs to yourself, especially since they always are irrelevant and don't contribute to the thread's construction.
You can also diffamate all you want, the hat doesn't fit me Cool

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Nitshe Razvedka
#26 - 2016-08-15 15:45:41 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)





How is Sue Abott's Code alt doing these days Dom? Singing Falsetto after we emasculated his poco's?

Almost worth burning one of my alts to say: " être mauvaise joueureuse" on your codie TeamSpeak. But it seems you cop enough from your own team-mates. You are a delicate thing Dom, one would not want to bruise you unnecessarily.Blink

You can keep your thoughs to yourself, especially since they always are irrelevant and don't contribute to the thread's construction.
You can also diffamate all you want, the hat doesn't fit me Cool





Calm down codie. Breathe. Now write something coherent.



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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#27 - 2016-08-15 16:07:34 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
Ah. Finally a thread not punting merc services. And then such a disappointment: It's about highsec ganking.

Somebody please come up with something original.

Maybe a contest? Whoever brings me the most "Sequester Risalo's Frozen Corpse"s at the end of the month gets a prize?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#28 - 2016-08-15 17:51:28 UTC
Nitshe
This isn't a thread about me (yet again)
Go harass someone else.. or even better, go outside.

No f**** are given to you

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Cockchaos
Doomheim
#29 - 2016-08-15 18:41:30 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with...

If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it...


The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions.

I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot.

Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers.
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-08-15 18:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)



You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts.

If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE. CODE harboring citadel = burning citadel.

The reality is the chodes of CODE exist because current game mechanics, if the day ever comes that you cant dock criminal characters into untouchable npc stations in high sec, CODE will disappear, quickly.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#31 - 2016-08-15 18:49:08 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with...

If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it...


The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions.

I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot.

Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers.

Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take)

And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#32 - 2016-08-15 18:51:08 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)



You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts.

If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE.

First off,
I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself)
Secondly,
I don't have a -10.0 alt
Thirdly,
Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing.
At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them.

Your arguments are invalid.

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Cockchaos
Doomheim
#33 - 2016-08-15 18:54:13 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)



You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts.

If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE.

First off,
I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself)
Secondly,
I don't have a -10.0 alt
Thirdly,
Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing.
At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them.

Your arguments are invalid.


You know how I you are dumb? Because you are dumb hahaha
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#34 - 2016-08-15 18:59:39 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)



You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts.

If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE.

First off,
I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself)
Secondly,
I don't have a -10.0 alt
Thirdly,
Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing.
At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them.

Your arguments are invalid.


You know how I you are dumb? Because you are dumb hahaha

If you say so
Also Inb4 ban for having that tasteless name

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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Cockchaos
Doomheim
#35 - 2016-08-15 19:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with...

If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it...


The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions.

I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot.

Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers.

Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take)

And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore?


I laughed at them then, but I was targeting players with cargo many many times more valuable than their ships. CODE indiscriminately destroys ships with empty cargoholds just because they feel no consequence due to current game mechanics.

I stopped ganking because I dont want anyone quitting EVE these days. Sub numbers are on the decline. I dont want to see suicide ganking nerfed, I just want consequences for all.

Thats how EVE should be.
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#36 - 2016-08-15 19:07:50 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)

No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).

And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D

Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)



You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts.

If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE.

First off,
I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself)
Secondly,
I don't have a -10.0 alt
Thirdly,
Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing.
At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them.

Your arguments are invalid.


You know how I you are dumb? Because you are dumb hahaha

If you say so
Also Inb4 ban for having that tasteless name


My name means a male chicken in a state of utter disorder
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#37 - 2016-08-15 19:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with...

If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it...


The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions.

I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot.

Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers.

Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take)

And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore?


I laughed at them then, but I was targeting players with cargo many many times more valuable than their ships. CODE indiscriminately destroys ships with empty cargoholds just because they feel no consequence due to current game mechanics.

I stopped ganking because I dont want anyone quitting EVE these days. Sub numbers are on the decline. I dont want to see suicide ganking nerfed, I just want consequences for all.

Thats how EVE should be.

CODE. has found a way to earn tens of trillions of isk in profit, while simultaneously letting their members indiscriminately gank anything they feel like to pass the time...

I'll grant you they go a bit overboard sometimes, and they get downright creepy when they get really into Role Playing their characters...But it is all part of EVE.

And they do have consequences for ganking - they've simply found ways to compensate for them, as you did when you ganked.

As I have previously stated in this thread - they already use Citadels. We'll see if a certain someone follows through on killing any....

But in either case there is not a consequence in the game that is going to make them give up their 15+ trillion isk cash cow, short of simply making ganking impossible...



Ultimately the problem is not with the game mechanics, and not with CODE.

The problem is that while the gankers have organized and formed a solid Role-Playing organization - and figured out how to not only fund their organization and make it incredibly profitable (at least for the leadership) but also how to make it fun for their members - they have no counterpart on the "good" side to balance them out. The anti-ganking "organization" is a joke. They are unwilling/unable to actually form a cohesive group, nor are they able to find ways to get people involved, to let them have fun, nor even to fund anything...

What EVE really needs in relation to CODE. is a charismatic leader who can form an active, *fun*, and profitable anti-CODE. What EVE needs is an anti-James 315... a 513 semaJ perhaps?

Sadly you can't just make such a player start playing EVE with an interest in doing such a thing...So we are stuck dealing with CODE. on the one side and dozens/hundreds/thousands of disorganized/scattered subgroups on the other...

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Cockchaos
Doomheim
#38 - 2016-08-15 19:52:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.

There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.

I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.

Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.


Hopefully CCP takes note, there are a lot of players who are losing their assets and want to take the fight to CODE, unfortunately they can't, the game mechanics do not allow it, so many simply leave the game.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#39 - 2016-08-15 19:58:44 UTC
Cockchaos wrote:
And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.

There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.

I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.

Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.


You can shoot CODE. alt assets.
It's called wardecs.

As for consequences,
Well there's:
-ship lost
-sec status loss
-criminal timer
-anyone can shoot at you
-everyone hates you (see Nitshe)
-****** forum posts
-nerfs every once in a while

And there's many more.

There's more risk now as a ganker than there was when you supposedly ganked.
More opportunities to f. up, more opportunities to fail a gank. But they don't care, they're having fun wrecking people's dreams Lol

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Cockchaos
Doomheim
#40 - 2016-08-15 20:04:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cockchaos
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Cockchaos wrote:
And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.

There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.

I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.

Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.


You can shoot CODE. alt assets.
It's called wardecs.

As for consequences,
Well there's:
-ship lost
-sec status loss
-criminal timer
-anyone can shoot at you
-everyone hates you (see Nitshe)
-****** forum posts
-nerfs every once in a while

And there's many more.

There's more risk now as a ganker than there was when you supposedly ganked.
More opportunities to f. up, more opportunities to fail a gank. But they don't care, they're having fun wrecking people's dreams Lol


Imbecile, vulnerable CODE assets is not in your list, that is the problem. Throw away gank ships do not count.

I agree that there has been a lot of nerfs to gankers, eventually CCP will realize that gankers will always be there as they should, what CCP needs to do is implement ways for players to fight back. All the ehp buffs are worthless, ship hit points are not the problem or the solution. Its all about consequence for and added vulnerability of the attacker.