EVE General Discussion

Not on the forums.
I mean ingame!
Highsec, obvously!

Only threads that come up are about wanting peace, never about wanting a war.
No threads about how targets evaded a wardec by folding.
No threads about how CCP isn't trying to make people aware of the dangers and responsibilities.

Nothing about how people are driving down local markets by being virtually untouchable beyond ganking at a loss ...
... or hiring mercs ...
... which would be a move by seriously dedicated traders/industrials only. (which is bad)


It seems to me that everyone out there just wants peace.
May it be that this peace is merely ignorance, the wish to be left alone, but in the end it's still peace!


Multiply that by thousands and we have a real life city.
No one cares about others beyond the own social circles, if there even is one.
No one wants to interact with others beyond the social circle, unless it's beneficial.
Everyone silently agrees that by largely ignoring each other no one will come to harm.


That's a ****** form of peace, but it's still goddamn PEACE!


It is my strong belief that this sort of PEACE is not the way capsuleers should go. This sort of peace, bred out of isolation, leads to slavery and degradation of society. A society not caring about improving itself; not caring about collective development and progress. A society of people willfully working as slaves for the leadership who sees itself as the one sho has to be the deciding factor. The division of large scale communities allow political entities like CONCORD to manipulate the citizens to their will, by trial and error at first, but becoming better and better by slowly gaining experience.

CONCORD is quite literally crowd controlling people!


But the worst part is that these people have no idea.
To them all is well. In their minds they are good people.
To them it's peace, to me it's ignorance.


They believe they have the freedoms to pursue what they "want" ...
... yet don't realize that what they actually can "want" is actually laid out by CONCORD for them.
Freedom of choice to them, deliberate limiting of potential to me.


But the worst part overlooked often even by those aware of CONCORD's doings ...
... are the political long time consequences of the shituation at hand.

Once any population reaches a certain amount of citizens, a threshold, which is blindly obedient and "peacefull" ...
... the political leadership will be "forced" to take a stand.

In these people's minds, any lack of peace is like a trigger that initiates an emotional chain reaction ...
... which exposes a cognitive dissonance, a painfull clash of logic ...
... between "how the world is to them" and "how the world can not ever be like someone showed them".

Eventually a threshold is reached that will make the population sing the collective song of dissonance ...
... demanding that anything triggering their collective delusion will be punished severely.


We're not there yet.
It can still be stopped.
There are still ways to force CONCORD into a move that allows long-term balance ...
... even against their own will ...
... but they will oblige for straight forward reasons:


When there is opposition forming, the best way to keep making "progress towards the long-term-goal" is to give the opposition what they want, because it will divide them again. It works by removing what binds their selfish interests, because without said interest people will be reduced back to their selfishness and ignorance. In the end CONCORD wins, because they can play this game for as long as they want.

This always has to be considered!

"So it's useless to try, you might think?"
No!
"But... but how then compete with the mighty crowd controlling police about power and influence?"


That, my friends, comes in a new thread, soon, on another day.


For now, please, tell me what you think. :)

Let's have a general discussion about all the mechanisms, rules and laws CONCORD openly or silently implemented since it's inception. Let's talk about how it influenced us in the past and how it will influence us in the future! Let's talk about how they slowly implemented more and more restrictions using their twisted logic to make a divided opposition accept it by being dwarfed by the easily manipulated masses! Let's talk about how the generational gap helps them further their agenda without any sign of slowing down!


Every other thread is always about specifics and details ...
... while this thread aims to be about the bigger picture and meta.


I want to know your thoughts, seriously ... i put actual effort into this. :p

yes

You have freed new capsuleers from the shackles of CONCORD ...
... and prevented their minds from falling for the false idea of PEACE!

I am very proud of you for doing your part!

Well done!

too long for me to read, too hot here....so yes yes better stop to be apathetic...is it correctly written? apathetich

There is a much better way to word this ...
... and it is definitely a part of the equation.

Social interactivity has been nerf'd severely.
SOME handed over the rights and liberties of EVERYONE for a bit more security ...
... and negative side effects most people simply aren't aware of.

Everything has been pushed into a state of fear of being anything but 100% within CONCORD's laws.


CONCORD even knows that this reduces the amount of new capsuleers willing to stay with us ...
yet is not willing to change its course! Worse, it KEEPS GOING without looking back.

- wall of text
- No TLDR

just here to troll, don't mind me.
oh and btw.... good one OP i agree 100% with what you wrote... whatever it is....... SeemsImportant

I would think that there are entities within new Eden that have it within their powers to interfere with Concord. Whether direct or indirect, the level of technology or sheer intellect to cause a failure in the operations in at least a localized form.

I have never been able to understand the division of mechanics between the Empire authorities and Concord. The mechanics make no sense. Perhaps sorting out those roles and rules might help.

For example
Why do the Empire forces care about security status of an individual? It should only be standings that matter.

Bizarre example
During the recent Serpentis event. I had the experience of sitting at a gate, along with the Drifters, Concord, Caldari Navy and customs, Guristas pirates, and Angel Guards. What?!?

Yes.
YES!

It's horrible!

We live in a time of mediocracy! Everyone is only caring about himself and gaining personal wealth!
And when they reach that wealth, what happens?

They bore themselves and leave ...
... OR WORSE, they stay and worsen the shituation!

Just as CONCORD wills it!

Stop being apathetic?

What's the point... no use anyway... why bother...?

There aren't really any effective (and not mind-numbingly boring) methods of white knighting people. Thus, it is difficult to see how more meaningful conflict in highsec could originate.

Just go to lowsec or null.