Intergalactic Summit

Understood, Tuulinen-haani. Certainly, the fact that Kim lost a ship to STPRO station guns in one case makes the situation perfectly clear to an outside observer: whatever her personal feelings, the State Protectorate believes her actions were criminal.

So, you're saying that my summaries of the Caldari Liberal viewpoint noted here and here are ignorant?

Please, do educate the class with your superior grasp of Liberalism.

It's great seeing the various viewpoints regarding Caldari Society & what people believe is part of Caldari identity & what path we should take.

I personally believe we should continue to adhere to our core strenghts, namely:

- The Meritocracy of the State, assuring that the most qualified are in a position to lead. this is a system that must be constantly watched, guarded & evaluated. It's not because a person is qualified for a position, that he remains qualified.
In this is also one of the credo's of the State: 'do your part'. There is always a job or task for you to do. If you cannot find employment in any of the megacorp facilities for whatever reason, there is always the military or other central government structures that can help you in getting a job & thereby Citizen status.
That said, everyone should get a chance to be a Citizen. As explained before in this thread, children of those who didn't earn their Citizenship should have their chance as well, as they could have learned from the flaws & errors made by their parents.

-The Corporate structure of the State: The constant competition between the Megacorps as individual governing bodies allows the State to maintain it's lead in the New Eden cluster both economically as technologically.
At the same time, a loose central body is required to prevent any form of escalation along with some 'neutral' central groups, to assure the Megacorps keep the good of the State in mind without them losing their own identity

- To embrace our differences rather then becoming a homogeneous mass. NOH has a different philosophy & approach then Kaalakiota or Sukuuvestaa. These differences should be embraced rather then eliminated, as that is what gives the State it's flexibility to handle a wide variety of challenges in a short time.
It's also a call to preserve the identity of the Civire, Deteis & Achura within the State (and others), to assure we always have multiple group viewpoints within the State, allowing us to react fast in critical matters, rather then one homogeneous mass of Citizens.

- To reach out and trade with others. The State, through it's corporate culture has a unique position within New Eden, which can be used to create strong economic & technological bonds with other nations & their corporations.
Not only does this contact with others enrich & strengthen the State, it will also lessen armed conflict with us as well, allowing our forces to focus more on proper threats like the Drifters or Sansha Kuvakei.
It also allows the State to keep the lead in technology, as such exchanges allow our various Megacorps to bring together missing pieces in technogical & scientific progress much faster.

- Maintain a strong & flexible military with the aid of advances in science & technology. To maintain peace, one always has to guard against war. In my opinion, the State always took the right approach to this, by not relying on large numbers, but rather on a smaller but more flexible task force that compensates for it's lack of number by assuring that the ships in service are always top of the line, scrapping & replacing outdated ships as soon as possible.


With that all said, I do enjoy reading the various points other made and I clearly can see merit in them. This is why we should keep discussing Caldari Identity, as it's an ever growing & ever evolving concept.
Once being Caldari meant you were born on Caldari Prime; Now it means you are part of the State & it's megacorps. What will it mean in the future? Nobody knows.

Nobody knows, but we can dream and plan.

Already today thanks for eugenics we have best managers and engineers - Deteis. Best scientists - Achura. And of course best workers and fighters - Civire. The children of Raata came to Stars to embrace our destiny, and open our hands to others. But of course it doesn't mean we shall promote our culture by invasion like gallenteans. To become Caldari one shall not be captured, converted or invaded. To become Caldari one shall decide themselves to come to us and live with us.

Caldari won't mean place where you born or who your ancestors were. These things will only dictate the ways you could choose according to your traits. Caldari will mean something greater, something more valuable and important, that unifies all of us. It will be a concept of Heiian, that everyone who are Caldari will be working together for the greater good, opposite to working just for themselves or doing work mindlessly like Sansha drones. It will be concept of Honor, Loyalty and Integrity, and dealing with Caldari will mean you could rely on us and trust us. Caldari will be the most progressive society, built on principles of meritocracy, honor and law. It will be a society of scientists, architects, engineers and constructors, building more and larger, expanding the limits of the Universe and humanity. We will be fighting against the Universe itself, we don't need to invade others like gallenteans. Because we build better than them, and we don't even need their humans, because we can grow our own humans in the vats. Our society will step forward and above all else. We wouldn't nurse them though, considering them "lesser", we won't meddle in their affairs like gallenteans do to others. We will only give them what they will ask from us, what they will trade from us, and only if they will pay back for it. It will be a greatest merit of Caldari that we accept people as they are. That we will respect Amarr for their religion, we won't tell them a single bad word about their slavery. We will even accept gallentean democracy, provided the Federation will be destroyed, and gallenteans will learn that attempts to spread this stuff outside of their territory will get their teeth knocked out. And of course after gallenteans pay for all the deaths and destructions their war for "freedoms" and "democracies" caused. But it is not a story about them, but about us. Abouth whom we shall be and whom we shan't.

Our way is a way of greatness and self improvement. Caldari will become a new step in human evolution, we will become new humans, Super Humans. Some people might object that CONCORD already makes new "superhumans" - capsuleers. But I believe that their experiment has failed. Capsuleer and "immortal soldier" program is the deadend. I have discussed elsewhere that this sort of "immortality" is a hoax. We die even faster and live less than standard "baseliners". But again, it is not about this. We became not "immortal soldiers", but "immoral soldiers". Not all of us, luckily. But you can witness yourself this phenomenon. Take for example Makoto Priano and her likes. Find them in Jita local, and they will be screaming all over about "legit deals", trying to sell you a piece of carbon instead of a freighter. And CONCORD can do nothing about them! Even worse, CONCORD protects them. There are no laws, enforcing honorable behavior. You can't put a scammer under tribunal for false deals. You can't put a Makoto under tribunal for her constant slanders. But in the State - you can. Can you imagine Jita scammers screaming on a square in New Caldari?... they would be just arrested all at once. Can you imagine slanderer spreading lies about Caldari Officer or Corp representative? They would be put under tribunal and will lose their last pants.

Our, Caldari society, is already superior to capsuleer one. And the future of human evolution belongs to Caldari, and not to CONCORD experiments.

But you know you will still use the ECMs whenever you have the chance.

I wanted to be a spaceship.

Eh, close enough. I have to share though.

Why are you proud of your population being cloned I never understood that and I just want to know

That is kinda bad considering

Well I just am not used to it but then again I don't plan on getting married because of the laws and also I would rather have a girlfriend that I love than a wife I don't.in fact I dodged a bullet(more precisely a Core Locus grenade) when I broke up with my girlfriend who was an Amarrian immortal mercenary and if I had married her under the marriage laws I would have to have given up half of my isk to her (although I would have hidden most of it) and I don't lime paying for anything I can't use.

That sounds awfully complicated though.