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AT WAR - Character select screen

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Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#1 - 2016-08-10 07:55:34 UTC
Add a visual indication that a pilot is at war on the character select screen before logging in.

Some pilots fail to realise they are at war, because there is no clear notification (except for a pop-up and mail, which can go unnoticed). Pilots should be aware at all times that they are at war, like a drill-sargent banging on the tents at the crack of dawn!

Of course, there are some pilots who spend their lives at war, so maybe the visual could be subtle, but still make the player aware before logging in.

Concept character select screen




Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
#2 - 2016-08-10 08:02:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lex Gabinia
Is there just no expectation of personal responsibility in this playerbase anymore?
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#3 - 2016-08-10 08:16:20 UTC
Personal responsibility should be expected in-game by the actions the pilot takes while logged in. A war dec is a notable action/feature, and should be identifiable quickly and easily.

For example, a player who has not logged on for a week and is unaware of a war dec, and looses a ship within 5 mins, although the winning side will see this as a pro, the loosing side will not. This kind of gameplay is what can spearhead new players. (imo)



Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Chronos Thiesant
Deep Sky Enterprises
#4 - 2016-08-10 09:09:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Chronos Thiesant
You know checking notifications is an in game action right?

Maybe your corp should hire someone to be your drill sergeant? I will offer to check your corps wardec status and update you, for a modest fee of course. How does 30m a day sound?

Seriously though, you can set a motd for chat channels, this is probably a good idea.
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2016-08-10 09:27:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Annexe
*checks watch* the troll didn't take long.

This is not a complaint from my end, this is a feature suggestion that might make things better for other players.
Wardec notifications can get buried within all the other notifications and mails. I'm simply suggesting a more noticeable notification that a pilot is at war.


Check my corps wardec history/killboards, and you'll see wardecs don't bother us haha

Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#6 - 2016-08-10 09:38:13 UTC
On the one hand, it'd be nice. On the other hand, if people are too bad to click the flashy buttons in their neocom, maybe they deserve losing 3 Jumpfreighters in 1 minute in a highsec <-> lowsec entry system.
Valkin Mordirc
#7 - 2016-08-10 13:47:41 UTC
Honestly a more noticeable notification might be needed. Even with the new notification, it's possible for it to be buried under other's.


However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.
#DeleteTheWeak
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2016-08-10 15:38:36 UTC
This being in Features and Ideas, all that's needed is commentary whether it's a good idea or bad.

I wouldn't mind some sort of At War banner over the login icon, for your convenience.

I also wouldn't mind if the names of all the war participants are made public, so that the other side can find you, for the convenience of finding war targets more easily in a PVP game that's supposed to be about fighting.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#9 - 2016-08-10 17:12:33 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
This being in Features and Ideas, all that's needed is commentary whether it's a good idea or bad.



Thank you for telling me how the Features and Ideas discussion forum works. This is a bad idea.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2016-08-10 17:47:38 UTC
Annexe wrote:
Add a visual indication that a pilot is at war on the character select screen before logging in.

Some pilots fail to realise they are at war, because there is no clear notification (except for a pop-up and mail, which can go unnoticed). Pilots should be aware at all times that they are at war, like a drill-sargent banging on the tents at the crack of dawn!

Of course, there are some pilots who spend their lives at war, so maybe the visual could be subtle, but still make the player aware before logging in.

Concept character select screen







You're in a nullsec group. And a member of the imperium.

The answer to the question 'am I at war' is going to be 'yes' for the lifetime of the servers. I suggest you get used to it.
Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
#11 - 2016-08-10 19:16:17 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Honestly a more noticeable notification might be needed. Even with the new notification, it's possible for it to be buried under other's.


However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

IT DOES!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2016-08-10 20:13:53 UTC
Lex Gabinia wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Honestly a more noticeable notification might be needed. Even with the new notification, it's possible for it to be buried under other's.


However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

IT DOES!

To every member of every corp in the alliance.
thats what the notification is,
if you click on it it has the agressors name, the time the dec goes live ect...
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#13 - 2016-08-10 20:41:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
I would prefer it if Smokey the Bear or Slimer would run across your screen at character selection if you're at war, shouting "DON'T LOG IN DON'T LOG IN YOU WILL DIE!"

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#14 - 2016-08-11 01:24:08 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:

However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

Now consider how many mails can be sent in a busy corp, and how easy it is to miss 1 amongst 100 or 1000. Sure it's fine if you happen to be logging in daily for 12 hours so never get any build up, but if you play only on weekends for example you have a lot of catching up on notifications and emails to do. And people shouldn't be punished for having a real life.

I'm fully on board with the log in screen displaying a little more information as long as it stays subtle. It's not like the login screen really tells us huge amounts of info currently after all.
Minoo Raholan
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-08-11 01:30:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Minoo Raholan
It's a good idea, legit, but it's wasted on these people/forums.
Better off trying to reach out to the devs elsewhere; or maybe csm or something.

Your mistake was having any expectation at all for some level of cognition here.

I'm sure that dude with the gay-porno stache would abs. love having a bear run across his screen. Love it. With leather straps.
As for the dude with the douche goatee, I doubt people like him actually post anything original themselves. Pussies.
The rest just sideline, derail, or focus on something off the point, or contribute nothing. The **** are you dipshits talking about in game notifications here for?

"This is a bad idea" That's all he's gonna say? No explanation? On second thought, any thoughts he does have, probably not worth reading. Assuming he's capable of having any.

I mean, if it's a bad idea, I would love to hear some concise points on why. So far nothing.

OP put forth an idea that is seemingly observant and thoughtful, detail oriented. A legit "small things" type of feature. A nice touch.
It isn't a complaint. It's a valid and original idea.
A complaint is like, "I don't want to see carbon anymore in relic/data sites, they suck!"
OP made valid points.
The idea itself would actually be a nice touch, small details like that matter.

I don't see anyone else doing a mock up with how they think it should look, do I?

**** it, I would love it if I logged on and saw that, like damn right I'm in a war.

MRW checking out the forums. https://youtu.be/vO0J6seoXBE?t=14s
Valkin Mordirc
#16 - 2016-08-11 01:57:27 UTC
Lex Gabinia wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Honestly a more noticeable notification might be needed. Even with the new notification, it's possible for it to be buried under other's.


However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

IT DOES!



Eh. No.

It doesn't. It sends a notification.


Not an EVE-Mail.



Or sorry rather, lemme translate that to your native tongue.


NO, IT DOESN'T IT SEND NOTIFICATION, IN LITTLE BLUE BOX WITH NUMBERS. ME SAID IT SHOULD SEND EVE-MAIL. MORE NOTICEABLE
#DeleteTheWeak
Valkin Mordirc
#17 - 2016-08-11 02:12:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:

However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

Now consider how many mails can be sent in a busy corp, and how easy it is to miss 1 amongst 100 or 1000. Sure it's fine if you happen to be logging in daily for 12 hours so never get any build up, but if you play only on weekends for example you have a lot of catching up on notifications and emails to do. And people shouldn't be punished for having a real life.

I'm fully on board with the log in screen displaying a little more information as long as it stays subtle. It's not like the login screen really tells us huge amounts of info currently after all.



Yeah fair point,


Honestly I just don't like the mock-up. Something less inyoface about it, would be better.

EDIT:


It's not to hard to check if your at war, all I do is look at my corp info if I don't log in for a week or so. Just to be sure, however adding something like this in, isn't really a top priority. There IS already a system in place. However easy to miss it, it's still an automatic system message.

Personally like I said, I don't like the mock-up, but I would be okay with something along this nature. It would help newbro's out a lot, specially if there is a link on the screen explaining it maybe?
#DeleteTheWeak
Wanda Fayne
#18 - 2016-08-11 02:58:20 UTC
+1 like the idea.

"your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic" -Lan Wang-

  • - "hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankery" -Ralph King-Griffin-
Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
#19 - 2016-08-11 03:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Lex Gabinia
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Lex Gabinia wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Honestly a more noticeable notification might be needed. Even with the new notification, it's possible for it to be buried under other's.


However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

IT DOES!



Eh. No.

It doesn't. It sends a notification.


Not an EVE-Mail.



Or sorry rather, lemme translate that to your native tongue.


NO, IT DOESN'T IT SEND NOTIFICATION, IN LITTLE BLUE BOX WITH NUMBERS. ME SAID IT SHOULD SEND EVE-MAIL. MORE NOTICEABLE

It sends an EVE mail - always has...And in a special little section so it does NOT get mixed in with all your Corp, Alliance and other mails:


XXX Against YYY
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2016.07.06 20:08

XXXX has declared war on YYYY.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.


So, what other crutch do you need?
Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
#20 - 2016-08-11 03:42:30 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:

However I think you mock up is a little to...much? The System should just send on EVE-Mail rather then a notification.

Now consider how many mails can be sent in a busy corp, and how easy it is to miss 1 amongst 100 or 1000. Sure it's fine if you happen to be logging in daily for 12 hours so never get any build up, but if you play only on weekends for example you have a lot of catching up on notifications and emails to do. And people shouldn't be punished for having a real life.

I'm fully on board with the log in screen displaying a little more information as long as it stays subtle. It's not like the login screen really tells us huge amounts of info currently after all.

It has its own special section under Communications deceptively labeled "War".
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