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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#21 - 2016-08-09 10:36:21 UTC
because grinding beacons for candy is literally the only thing you can do in eve Shocked

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Noroswen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-08-09 10:47:21 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
yes we need more excuses to stay docked in stations


Ah yes but consider this. With a more active and violent walking component you could probably kill them while they're in there.

I realize the likelihood of them giving Nova up is small to nonexistant but it does seem like there is at least some interest in using WiS to fill the gap which Dust was supposed to fill. Which sadly it never did.
NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#23 - 2016-08-09 10:59:35 UTC
Noroswen wrote:

Ah yes but consider this. With a more active and violent walking component you could probably kill them while they're in there.

I realize the likelihood of them giving Nova up is small to nonexistant but it does seem like there is at least some interest in using WiS to fill the gap which Dust was supposed to fill. Which sadly it never did.


It would be hilarious to see how every time a miner would try to approach one of the beautiful people he would be shivved by the guards and his corpse thrown out of the airlock. The tears would flow so hard that PI would break down due to all planets being transformed into Oceanic World (Salty).

Unfortunately CCP will continue to invest millions of dollars to sell thousands of 5$ VR games. (And with CCPs track record I don't see a unicorn-sized buyout by Facebook happening either.)

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Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#24 - 2016-08-09 11:09:21 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:


They need to learn how to not throw it away for console, mobile, VR, and other "fast cash" projects. If they need easy cash - kick out the guy who's recoloring same dressing gowns for years, and make some new cool outfits for cash store.


Have you played Valkyrie? It's actually one of the best VR experiences I have had. Not sure what you have against consoles but them putting games on other platforms isn't a legitimate issue.
Solecist Project
#25 - 2016-08-09 11:27:19 UTC
I was wondering why there was no WiS related thread open.

It's like, like, hell, a fly in your appartement you just can't get rid of.

Sometimes it just waits outside the room ...
... and when you think it's gone ...
... it's comes right back buzzing around your face. ^_^

Let them implement WiS, or not - the players will sort out the rest.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#26 - 2016-08-09 11:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Quote:
They need to learn how to not throw it away for console, mobile, VR, and other "fast cash" projects. If they need easy cash - kick out the guy who's recoloring same dressing gowns for years, and make some new cool outfits for cash store.

No. Its something else than that. Its not Dev's, its managament. They are only doing their job. Someone else thinks in what direction it have to go financially.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#27 - 2016-08-09 11:31:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkoth 24
Lan Wang wrote:
because grinding beacons for candy is literally the only thing you can do in eve Shocked

Did you ever try to talk to someone?

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Have you played Valkyrie?

I'm hetero, sorry.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#28 - 2016-08-09 11:38:44 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
because grinding beacons for candy is literally the only thing you can do in eve Shocked


Mmmmm candies.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-08-09 11:41:56 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
They will stick to Nova.

But having an avatar exploration module in EVE would be freaking avesome.

Imagine meeting someone in station in bar, playing roulette, drinking rum. Then he proposes you a deal, because he dont want to go alone to this site he heard about is in wormhole few systems far. Then you both jump in Asteros, and undock.

You go to this wormhole he have bookmarked, and jump thru.

Then imagine docking in some abandoned wormhole structure, exploring with this guy, but he gets shot by someone else who already was there, docked from diferent point, and he dies and its over for him, his spare clone is dead and he have to undock or he can observe by drone camera what is going on, or he can defend the structure from outside. You shoot the killer, then you shoot some more sleeper drones inside, hack a door and get the treasure worth hundreds of milions, escaping trapped room that starts to shrink, by shooting the security modules on walls in certain order.

Then you buy more fancy exploration suit with all this money in some shop, and then you go to bar with strippers and rum.

Better than Star Citizen!


That's the game i've always dreamed of. And as roleplayer too.
Solecist Project
#30 - 2016-08-09 11:56:22 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
They will stick to Nova.

But having an avatar exploration module in EVE would be freaking avesome.

Imagine meeting someone in station in bar, playing roulette, drinking rum. Then he proposes you a deal, because he dont want to go alone to this site he heard about is in wormhole few systems far. Then you both jump in Asteros, and undock.

You go to this wormhole he have bookmarked, and jump thru.

Then imagine docking in some abandoned wormhole structure, exploring with this guy, but he gets shot by someone else who already was there, docked from diferent point, and he dies and its over for him, his spare clone is dead and he have to undock or he can observe by drone camera what is going on, or he can defend the structure from outside. You shoot the killer, then you shoot some more sleeper drones inside, hack a door and get the treasure worth hundreds of milions, escaping trapped room that starts to shrink, by shooting the security modules on walls in certain order.

Then you buy more fancy exploration suit with all this money in some shop, and then you go to bar with strippers and rum.

Better than Star Citizen!


That's the game i've always dreamed of. And as roleplayer too.

Awesome!

Enter structure.
BOOM HEADSHOT!
You died.


So exciting!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Noroswen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-08-09 11:59:37 UTC
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Arkoth 24 wrote:


They need to learn how to not throw it away for console, mobile, VR, and other "fast cash" projects. If they need easy cash - kick out the guy who's recoloring same dressing gowns for years, and make some new cool outfits for cash store.


Have you played Valkyrie? It's actually one of the best VR experiences I have had. Not sure what you have against consoles but them putting games on other platforms isn't a legitimate issue.



I haven't had the chance to. Honestly I have nothing against Valkyrie or Nova. Nova however will likely not do any better than Dust. Valkyrie looks like an awesome experience, but the VR fighter sim is not exactly a crowded market in comparison to FPS games. Dust was supposed to be Eve on the ground for many folks. What it became was a lobby shooter that had little to compete with similar games. Nova will be much the same, even if it is a good shooter there are loads of good shooters out there.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#32 - 2016-08-09 12:01:40 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Enter structure.
BOOM HEADSHOT!
You died.


So exciting!

You just described every single FPS. Sometimes you can be even blown up with proximity explosives.
Noroswen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2016-08-09 12:13:06 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:


Awesome!

Enter structure.
BOOM HEADSHOT!
You died.


So exciting!


Warp through the wrong gate,
Warp Bubble/ Ganked
Podded

Its not like you can't devise mechanics to minimize this without restricting it.
Solecist Project
#34 - 2016-08-09 12:35:15 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Enter structure.
BOOM HEADSHOT!
You died.


So exciting!

You just described every single FPS. Sometimes you can be even blown up with proximity explosives.

Spawncampers get booted from servers and this is EVE, it'll be worse here.
And spawncamping is the closest equivalent to headshotting someone who enters a structure.

I don't mind anyway. It wouldn't be everywhere of course, but people would whine a lot about it either way.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#35 - 2016-08-09 12:39:35 UTC
jita would be funny...

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Hengle Teron
Rorquals Anonymous
Two Maidens One Chalice
#36 - 2016-08-09 12:41:17 UTC
It's like people want some completely different game...
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
#37 - 2016-08-09 12:50:31 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
It's like people want some completely different game...


yeah i know its like buying a racing car then thinking mmm this would be better if it could go offroad too

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#38 - 2016-08-09 13:04:52 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
It's like people want some completely different game...


yeah i know its like buying a racing car then thinking mmm this would be better if it could go offroad too

Why not. Cool
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#39 - 2016-08-09 13:06:45 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
And spawncamping is the closest equivalent to headshotting someone who enters a structure.

I don't mind anyway. It wouldn't be everywhere of course, but people would whine a lot about it either way.

All of these problems can be (and already were) easily solved in FPS-style (like after-spawn inluvnerability or even non-combat areas for interaction and trading), but discussing it here is pointless, 'cause no one believe we will ever have something like this in EvE. CCP needs to be really, really fearless to implement it.
Jenn aSide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#40 - 2016-08-09 13:08:47 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
It's like people want some completely different game...


yeah i know its like buying a racing car then thinking mmm this would be better if it could go offroad too


IMO it's that some people are never really satisfied. I've experienced the exact same thing in other games.

-When i played Mechwarrior 3 and Mechwarrior 4 and (briefly) Mechwarrior Online it was "I want Elementals (armored Infantry), I want tanks, I want dropships and aerospace fighters!!"

-When I played World of Tanks it was "This game could use some infantry"

-When I played X-Wing vs Tie fighter it was "I wish i could land and have a lgiht sabre fight" (plot twist, when SWG and SWTOR came out the XvT guys generally refused to play them lol).

-I've even heard off people complaining in world of warships that "marines landing on stuff" would make that game 'better".


Whats funny and sad is that people acknowledge that CCP has only really done one thing well (spaceships) while at the exact same time saying that CCP needs to add walking around to the game, despite the fact that it's been tried and abandoned. What makes them think CCP would do better this time? EVE is an old game, tacking new crap on has never worked, even seemingly simple stuff like Citadels seemed to have stretched them.