Ships & Modules

T3D pretty much killed the landscape for solo or small group pvp.

Ok, for people who actually move around and leave their system once in a blue moon, the T3D (and Svipul in particular) have completely ruined the landscape :)

They overshadow AF making them even more useless. They're the most used pvp ship of all (and that is just the Svipul alone, not counting the others). They're hilariously silly even after several nerfs where Clown2 and Fuxxy promised us they knew what they were doing even when we told them beforehand it wouldn't help, to a point where CCP finally admitted they don't know what they're doing and have enlisted a group of "wise men" (known pvp players) for a round table to try and fix this mess.

By design and with intention, CCP can't really govern the in-game cost of items. They can to some degree affect the relative cost of items compared to each other by influencing mineral and item costs where manufacturing is concerned as well as altering how one can get them and where (see drone "poop", changes to ship mineral costs, the Vehement blueprint changes going in this morning, etc.), but ultimately it's up to the players what something will costs ISK wise...including PLEX. If something goes up or down, at the very most CCP can be accused of/credited with making minor at best influences to how players speculate something's worth on the market, but even said speculative behavior is -- however predictable -- entirely player-based.

Also, PyFa and EFT are still a thing, just so you know. Socialize away, dear friend...socialize away!

Btw, pretty nice list. I can honestly agree with most if not all of it.

- multibuy is useful.
- this goes with both MTs and plexes: Skill injectors, multi character training, skill extractors, etc have reduced the number of plexes people use to convert RL money to isk since pretty much everything in the new eden store can be sold on market for isk. Also plexes cost a bit more now than they did in RL money.
- The price of many t1 ships have went up... a drake is like 60-65 mil i think. I use to buy them for 30 mil years ago. They nerfed loot reprocessing and enhanced mining. Now you have to do a bunch of ridiculous training most ratters arent going to bother with to reprocess loot and get the same amount. Most ratters dont bother picking up loot anymore. It also cost isk to reprocess loot into minerals and that eats into the profits. All of that caused the price of most minerals to nearly double.
-tieracide was suppose to give each of the named mods a purpose. it works for that purpose. But it also killed the price of many of the mods across the board.
- A lif is is basically all the triage stuff that use to be on a carrier. A carrier is now purely for fighting and a FAX( the lif) is purely logistics. there were a lot of capital changes a couple months ago? that you may want to update yourself on. If you want your lif to be a carrier, id file a ticket and explain you just returned after a long time away and that you would like your FAX to be a carrier again.
- Freighters got a nerf( so im told). They removed some of the base cargohold and gave them limited low slots. Most people still fit all cargoholds so they carry the same amount they did before.
- Forums in general are dead as many people post on reddit now.

You may be missing the following:
- Citadels: these are suppose to be a replacement for POS and stations? when CCP is done with them. They are quite useful as is even though many people will complain they arent deathstars that can take out a whole fleet solo without the owner even logging in. A lot of structure reworking is in the works.
-jump fatigue on everything that can jump makes force projection of capitals and the use of JBS limited.
-The map is more fractured now. this is mainly because sov players were punished with the ridiculous sov mechanic of jedi mind links( entosis is what it is called). this replaced Sov blockade units, which replaced POS bashing for sov. Now 5 guys can literally tie up an entire alliance of thousands of people having to defend their systems from ninja entosis frigates. Forcing that alliance to deal with ninja entosisers rather than actually get out and battle real alliances. Its absolutely stupid and the worst sov mechanic put into the game.
- NPCs will drop capitals on you now in null belts and anoms. Thats always exciting especially since they are far superior at locking, ewar/tackling, DPSing, and tanking you than any other ship in eve. Its basically like fighting a 5 or 10 man gang rolled up in a single ship.
- Dont know if you had ghost sites and shattered wormholes when you last played.
- Drifters and cicadean seekers are basically NPCs on steroids.
- new camera gives you more options but it has been buggy since release. I think they fixed most of the bugs. Some of the new graphics( such as docking and undocking) are a right pain in the arse.

Also signing your posts is now a bannable offense

It always was. ;-)

-Liang

Yeah, V for auto-moving your view to the celestial you clicked on? Yeah, that **** is ******* magic. That definitely deserved a spot on my delighted list. :)

-Liang

People that fly svipuls know how to fit them and other ships to counter. People try to bring a butterknife to a gun fight and then scream nerf. I have several ships in one station that will easily kill my svipuls without breaking a sweat. Without logi support svipuls will die to pretty much anything bigger than it rather quickly. It has the dps and tank pretty much equivalent to a t1 cruiser.

And i do fly svipuls along with most other t3ds and t3cs. but 90% of the time i undock for pvp im not in a T3D. That is because they are situational, not the super ship people claim them to be. I fly a variety of t2 , t3, and pirate faction in pvp for the variety of situations which occur when pvping.

Welcome back! I learned great deal from your posts here years ago when I was a younger pilot. :D

Well if they're not that awesome as you put it, why do you put so much time into writing walls of text trying to not get them changed? I mean, they're not that great so why fly them right?

Or could it be that they ARE really great and you just don't want to have your OP toy taken away from you so you'll use some hilarious :logic: and :reason: to try and convince people that they really aren't that amazing.