Ships & Modules

Oh my!!!!!

How stupid am I, you know it didn't even cross my mind, lol

Thanks for helping an idiot out.

Alucard

Hi Ion Kirst

Thanks for the reply, I don't use Drones at all at the moment, I am always generally out of range to use them and have frigates and cruisers destroyed before they get in range, well apart from maybe some missile frigates and cruisers.

Although I do find spider drones annoying and killing them wastes quite a few missiles.

I do enjoy long range sniping but if you can recommend a tank build for the Raven as you suggest I would give it a try to see what method of playstyle I am suited to, close, medium or long range, so far its all been about long range combat.

Cheers

Alucard

Alucard,

Since you asked:

I would use a fit resembling Henke's or Stone's. I might lean more toward Stone's for obvious reasons. Post #16

Going from long range sniping to close up and personal, is quite a change. This will be forcing you to stay in middle of the battle.
You will need a good tank. Obviously the longer it takes you to eliminate targets, the longer your tank has to work.

So for this instance, we're not worrying about range, everyone is coming to you, and eventually they will get within your targeting range, if there not already there. I would put a Damage Control II in the 5th low spot, still using 4 BCUs. I would go with the best xl shield booster that you can buy.

In the 7th mid, (looking at Stone's) I would use either a Target Painter, or a Missile Guidance Computer, to help apply damage.

I would also go with Furys. It may be seem harder to take down little stuff, because they have a large exp rad., but it sure helps on the battle ships.

Also, you have to have good drone skills, to help you with pesky frigates.

Pay close attention to the mission reports, and watch your triggers. I printed out each mission as I ran them, and I pull them out to glance at before I run a mission. Always watch your triggers. If you have to warp out, warp out, get everything back up to 100%, and jump back in and finish it.

I like to dish out as much damage as possible, and be able to apply it. (rigors and flares)

What is your dps?

I also love having a great tank, even if it's over-tanked. (personal preference.) If you can do the most damage that you can, and apply it well, there's nothing wrong with having a great tank.

Eventually, as you run missions, you'll learn what works and what doesn't. And as your skills improve, your damage output will increase, and so will your tank. You may be able to back off on your tank.

Jaz and I have used Liang's Raven fit as a guide for many years. If fact after a hiatus, Liang Nuren has returned to EVE.

Well, that's my 2 cents

-Kirst

If you happen to engage gurista pirates it can get quite hot in the thick of things. If you are getting pointed and jammed there is not much you can do. Drones can help. But they don't necessarily target the very frigates giving you so much trouble. In such situations a mirco jump drive lets you jump out and buff shields or warp to a station. Also the increased sensor strength of the CNR is an additional bonus with these suckers.

Hi All

On an offtopic just been given the Level 4 Anomic Base mission but cant find it in Eve Survival, is this just a new mission, cant get my Raven into it either.

Cheers

Alucard

Hi Risalo

Thanks for the reply but the mission I have is not there either, I have the Anomic Base for the Guiristas taking on the Supercarrier.

Cheers

Alucard

If you can't fit 6 T2 launchers, then there is no need to even use the Raven. You would probably do better in a Drake. Maybe see if 6 Arbalest launchers fit. (you just won't be able to use Fury)

Without being able to really apply the damage, then you most likely will struggle in a L4.

If you get jammed and scrammed, you could be in trouble. (That's the only situation I would recommend a MJD for a L4 rookie to GTFO and save his ship)

If you have low skills, maybe it's just too soon for you to fly a Raven.

-Kirst

The more bling you have fitted, then generally yes
someone is going to blow you up to get at the shiny stuff
paranoia in eve is a good thing
always think that every time you undock someone is checking your fit out with a passive scan
they might not be, but it always pays to think they are

if you're flying a ship built for pve
it's going to suck big time at pvp
it's like sending a snowman to work in the Sahara





last point on the ganking
always think of the undock button in terms of
"there may be explosions and death"
you just selected Yes

Alucard,

I hope this isn't too obvious, but do you look at the mission reports on EVE Survival?

And maybe you knew this but . . .

Each mission has different Factions. Some are Sansha, Guristas, Angel, Serpentis, Gallenti, or Blood Raiders, etc.

For each mission you should use mission specific missiles, shield mods, and drones, against those factions.

IE: The Sansha

The Sansha deal EM and Therm damage. So I would put: 1 x EM Ward Field II, 1x Thermic Dissipation Field II, and 1x EM Ward Amplifier II. (along with the XL SB and SB amp.)

I would use Caldari Mjolnir Cruise missiles (on your Arbalest launchers) (more expensive and more dps, but worth it.)
I would use Acolyte T2 Drones.

Just one more example: The Gurista

Gurista deal Kinetic and Thermal damage. so, 1x Kinetic Deflection Field II, 1x Thermic Dissipation Field II, and 1x Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II.

I would use Caldari Scourge Cruise Missiles, and T2 Hornets.

This way you protect yourself against their incoming, and you hit them where they are vulnerable.

Some guys use auto targeting missiles if you get jammed, but their dps sucks. I used them once, I'm content to just wait for the jams to end, and then blow them away. But for some, they may be better than nothing.

-Kirst

Hi

@Ion Kirst

Thanks again for the extensive replies, especially your reply about your DPS output with various equipment and implants.

I know skill training comes first but if using Named mods and implants will give me a little boost its something to look into.

I am also wondering if I change from T2 BCUs to Caldari Navy BCUs although expensive I wonder if I will get enough reduction in CPU to fit all T2 Cruise launchers.

I am going to look into this, thanks for the reply and a little inspiration.

Cheers

Alucard