EVE General Discussion

Yesterday agressive players destroyed my minning barge in hisec. I bought it for ~40 millions with equipment, now I lost everything.

It was done by group of players, who do it intentionally for long time. They use cheap ships for 1 million, twink characters and take no punishment that is supposed by game mechanics. They killed my ship, capsule. Concord destroyed 1 ship. Then they killed other miners for no reason.

I asked why, they trolled me, replied some pathetic nonsense, that I am so bad and useless because I mine asteroids.

Do dev allow such things intentionally? Shouldn't they be punished? What sence is in high security systems if any troll can kill you and have no bad consequences with exept to losing 1 million ship and bad security status for twink character?

If i mine, trade or play PvE then I spoil game and can be offended by other players? Bad, I am tired of boring PvP in other games, I was intersted in mining, trading e.t.c.. Should I leave EVE not to spoil game to great teen PvP players?

It's part of the game. Fight back, hide or quit. See section 7 for further clarification.

protip: only ever fly a properly tanked Procurer class Barge or Skiff class Exhumer.

your 100% untanked Retriever in Maurasi stood no chance.

Yes, the devs allow it. It's part of the game that stuff blows up - even in highsec.
High security doesn't mean it's perfectly safe - just safER than other parts of space.

Your mining barge had no tank fitted at all. Concord will come and destroy the attackers but it takes a couple of seconds before they arrive. If your ship is paper thin Concord will be too late to safe you.
The people that attacked you are part of a corporation that is known for ganking. Set them to a negative standing and watch local to see when they enter system.


edit: Also: don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Putting all your eggs into one basket usually ends badly in Eve.

You can use a Retriever/Mack fine for highsec, if you just pick some low populated area.

Remember, highsec does not mean that you are secure. It is just space with different engagement rules from low or null. Since EvE is a sandbox, this means that even though you don't want to PvP, it might still happen that you become target of someone elses PvP. The faster you accept this fact about the game, the faster you will learn to adapt and not be a victim.

Sad to read it. Well, ok... Will know that miners in this game are a little odd. One button gankers are more important.
Ok, I must stop whining. :)



Yes. But sad that I can't pay for that, as they use twink characters. ( So, you can do bad things on 1 character, while main one is unaffected by bounties and low security status.

we prefer activw players over inactive afkers who dont actually play.

no offense intended. its just how it is. :)

(thanks for saving me the time to check :)

If you're dead set on using a Retriever, look into alternatives to public belts. There are security missions that have asteroids in them, and level 1 security missions can generally be cleared out in a frigate (or, at worst, a destroyer). Clear the mission's rats, but don't turn in the mission. Bring your barge in, mine, and keep an eye on DScan.

Additionally, take a look at zKillboard, see which groups lose a lot of ships to CONCORD, then set those groups to -10 (Terrible) standings. Fit your ship with a Higgs rig, and if one of them shows up in your system, align to a station and set your speed to 75% max (aka, warp-out speed). If they show up on-grid, warp out.

The key critical part is that you have to be actively at your keyboard to accomplish this, and not draw attention to yourself. Whining on a forum is a pretty quick way to drawing a lot of attention to yourself.

passive aggressiveness.

you have no ground to speak to people like that.

that you are pissed about people shooting you down is okay,
the fact that you take it so overly personally isnt.

its a game. if you identify with your character and mistake ingame with reality ...
... you will constantly make enemies.

you smell like carebear... *sniffsniff*


i urge you to reconsider your approach! this is not a game for serious escapists!

Speaking as one who doesn't mind sacrificing the odd Catalyst on the altar of the mining gods, if D-Scan shows only Skiffs & Procurers, I tend to look elsewhere. If it's Retrievers & Hulks: game on. When you have a -9 sec status anyways, it's one of the more esoteric uses of a highsec static WH connection.