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[I-RED] Ishukone-Raata Public Financial Release: YC118.07.01-31

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-08-06 12:53:00 UTC
Alex Hinkelmann wrote:
The finer details of trade and truthfully life are beyond you Ma'am. Opportunities to find a trustworthy organization who is seeking investors, who is willing to adopt a dividend system among capsuleers is a rarity. That is why we have no investments within the Amarr Empire.

Also you appear to fail to understand that these dividend payouts are paid out to Ishuk-Raata, which means we own holding shares in their organization, not the other way around.

I may have made a mistake reading the direction of the operation, but that doesn't give you right insult me that way.

YOU LACK COMPETENCE TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEYOND ME OR WHAT IS NOT. Got it?

I perfectly fine see now that it was you who invested your funds into ENEMY corporations, and not them in yours, that, theoretically, doesn't give them control over your entity, as I have assumed. I saw numbers and simply didn't pay a lot of attention ot other details, because, after all, it isn't much significant. Now you see, that I perfectly fine catch details of trade. But the significant part is YOU dealing with ENEMY.

And the direction of your trade doesn't actually mean a lot. Maybe it is even worse this way, because it means YOU invested money into ENEMY. You gave money to ENEMY OF THE STATE.

You didn't give money to Amarr corporations, you didn't give money to neutral corporations, but almost all your funding went to... Gallentean greedy hands.

You do understand now that the money you get from them are bloody money? You invested in those, who commit genocide in Black Rise, into those, who torture Caldari Prisoners of War (oh... please forgive me... they are not YOUR prisoners, since there were not a single Ishukone citizen among those Caldari prisoners whom Federals torture...), in those, who attacked our Homeworld and occupied it again, and you invested into those, who attacked CN Shiigeru, and consequences of whose attack are still visible on Kaalakiota peaks from space!

Go there, fly to Luminaire and look at Caldari Prime. That's what do those, whom you invested in. Can you now look into eyes of Caldari?.. Have you at least a piece of your consciousness left?..

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-08-06 17:40:15 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Alex Hinkelmann wrote:
The finer details of trade and truthfully life are beyond you Ma'am. Opportunities to find a trustworthy organization who is seeking investors, who is willing to adopt a dividend system among capsuleers is a rarity. That is why we have no investments within the Amarr Empire.

Also you appear to fail to understand that these dividend payouts are paid out to Ishuk-Raata, which means we own holding shares in their organization, not the other way around.

I may have made a mistake reading the direction of the operation, but that doesn't give you right insult me that way.

YOU LACK COMPETENCE TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEYOND ME OR WHAT IS NOT. Got it?

I perfectly fine see now that it was you who invested your funds into ENEMY corporations, and not them in yours, that, theoretically, doesn't give them control over your entity, as I have assumed. I saw numbers and simply didn't pay a lot of attention ot other details, because, after all, it isn't much significant. Now you see, that I perfectly fine catch details of trade. But the significant part is YOU dealing with ENEMY.

And the direction of your trade doesn't actually mean a lot. Maybe it is even worse this way, because it means YOU invested money into ENEMY. You gave money to ENEMY OF THE STATE.

You didn't give money to Amarr corporations, you didn't give money to neutral corporations, but almost all your funding went to... Gallentean greedy hands.

You do understand now that the money you get from them are bloody money? You invested in those, who commit genocide in Black Rise, into those, who torture Caldari Prisoners of War (oh... please forgive me... they are not YOUR prisoners, since there were not a single Ishukone citizen among those Caldari prisoners whom Federals torture...), in those, who attacked our Homeworld and occupied it again, and you invested into those, who attacked CN Shiigeru, and consequences of whose attack are still visible on Kaalakiota peaks from space!

Go there, fly to Luminaire and look at Caldari Prime. That's what do those, whom you invested in. Can you now look into eyes of Caldari?.. Have you at least a piece of your consciousness left?..

Yep there are totally 0 Gallente POWs and 0 displaced Gallente on Caldari prime ... oh wait there are LESS Gallente POWs because you kill them and at the moment THERE IS A PROGRAM TO HELP CALDARI ON CALDARI PRIME. Is there a program like that for Gallente there no there is not and besides thanks to the corporation you are calling tratiors Caldari are treated just fine on Caldari prime.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#23 - 2016-08-06 18:11:34 UTC
I propose that if you want to crash an I-RED report you have to at least be a shareholder.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#24 - 2016-08-06 18:20:36 UTC
Well, if increased State-loyal participation is needed...

Hinkelmann-haan, we've spoken before about partnerships and cooperation. Let's formalize this. Does your infrastructure development need mezzanine funding?

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-08-06 19:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Mr. Liberator. On multiple occasions I have been showing where and how exactly gallentean jailmasters were torturing Caldari prisoners of war. Even more, I have provided enough information even for a starting capsule pilot to check facts themselves. Please do so and educate yourself on the topic you are talking about it. I would also recommend you to making new topic if you are interested in discussing situation on Caldari Prime in... I can't recall for which time. But if you are ready for another cycle of discussion - be my guest.

As for Makoto Priano's intervention...
I'd like to remind readers that the person under question have already shown herself to the IGS earlier as a liar, who has chosen life of dishonor. (Ref.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 ) Making business with this person is ill-advised.

And, obviously, considering Priano as "State-loyal" person would be... inadequate to reality.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-08-06 19:47:18 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Mr. Liberator. On multiple occasions I have been showing where and how exactly gallentean jailmasters were torturing Caldari prisoners of war. Even more, I have provided enough information even for a starting capsule pilot to check facts themselves. Please do so and educate yourself on the topic you are talking about it. I would also recommend you to making new topic if you are interested in discussing situation on Caldari Prime in... I can't recall for which time. But if you are ready for another cycle of discussion - be my guest.

As for Makoto Priano's intervention...
I'd like to remind readers that the person under question have already shown herself to the IGS earlier as a liar, who has chosen life of dishonor. (Ref.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 ) Making business with this person is ill-advised.

And, obviously, considering Priano as "State-loyal" person would be... inadequate to reality.

I know about the Caldari POWs.My point is that there are Gallente POWs too and there is no proof that in most cases they are treated more humanely than their Caldari counterparts and not only that but by what you have said in the past about Gallente POWs that are killed just as much if not more than Caldari are tortured.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2016-08-06 19:50:51 UTC
Slayer, I suggest you stop feeding a racist bigot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#28 - 2016-08-06 19:54:21 UTC
If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.

Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Roirdan Bouchate
Ishukone-Raata Accounting and Transport
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#29 - 2016-08-06 19:57:36 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Well, if increased State-loyal participation is needed...

Hinkelmann-haan, we've spoken before about partnerships and cooperation. Let's formalize this. Does your infrastructure development need mezzanine funding?

It is not needed but we certainly encourage it.

On that note, the I-RED Board of Directors has for some time now been discussing a deeper working relationship with the Arataka Research Consortium and Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries. We would be very interested in discussing this further through GalNet mail or fluid router network communications.

I-RED Board of Directors || Operation Grey Steel© Project Manager || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©

Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-08-06 20:13:41 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Slayer, I suggest you stop feeding a racist bigot.

I think we have made contact with the drifters it is Kim. Just as aggressive but it has grand delusions.
Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#31 - 2016-08-06 20:17:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Hinkelmann
Ms Kim, I understand your nationalistic fervor has a unique hold on your thoughts, but if you would please respect this forums topic it would be appreciated. Who we chose to do business is of no concern to you or anyone else, except our shareholders, Ishukone Corporation and those who hold a legal authority over such things, such as the Chief Executive Panel; even then said control has its limits. None of which you claim or hold ties to, so please do not turn this into a needless debate.

If you wish to attack our organization do so elsewhere, we will not stop you.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2016-08-06 20:25:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.

Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once.

Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options
1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go
2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely
3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering
So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2016-08-06 20:45:00 UTC
Alex Hinkelmann wrote:
Ms Kim, I understand your nationalistic fervor has a unique hold on your thoughts, but if you would please respect this forums topic it would be appreciated. Who we chose to do business is of no concern to you or anyone else, except our shareholders, Ishukone Corporation and those who hold a legal authority over such things, such as the Chief Executive Panel; even then said control has its limits. None of which you claim or hold ties to, so please do not turn this into a needless debate.

If you wish to attack our organization do so elsewhere, we will not stop you.

I've only warned, you could have said thanks.

But if you want to step on a rake, go ahead, I'll just laugh when it will hit your forehead.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2016-08-06 20:56:32 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.

Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once.

Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options
1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go
2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely
3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering
So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals

I have seen Gallente POW camps. They were concealed, use the search button on forum to find instructions how to find them, or start new discussion, I'll explain you there. Still I see no proofs of your words, and I don't think that keeping conversation with person like you will be fruitable. Facts are on my side, while you have just empty slanders about us, gallentean.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2016-08-06 21:07:03 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.

Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once.

Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options
1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go
2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely
3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering
So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals

I have seen Gallente POW camps. They were concealed, use the search button on forum to find instructions how to find them, or start new discussion, I'll explain you there. Still I see no proofs of your words, and I don't think that keeping conversation with person like you will be fruitable. Facts are on my side, while you have just empty slanders about us, gallentean.

How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.
Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2016-08-06 21:08:53 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.

Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once.

Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options
1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go
2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely
3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering
So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals

I have seen Gallente POW camps. They were concealed, use the search button on forum to find instructions how to find them, or start new discussion, I'll explain you there. Still I see no proofs of your words, and I don't think that keeping conversation with person like you will be fruitable. Facts are on my side, while you have just empty slanders about us, gallentean.

How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.

By the way I will have a clone soldier clone to visit the prisons
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-08-06 22:19:24 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:

How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.

When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Slayer Liberator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2016-08-06 22:56:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:

How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.

When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders.

Well I know that you kill Gallente who have the misfortune of being at YOUR mercy and if I am to believe that your system treats POWs well I need evidence because from my experience in a Caldari POW Camp Where I was tortured and sexually abused until the Camp came under Ishukone control and I was released was just as bad if not worse than Gallente POW camps
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2016-08-06 23:10:20 UTC
Slayer Liberator wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Slayer Liberator wrote:

How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.

When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders.

Well I know that you kill Gallente who have the misfortune of being at YOUR mercy and if I am to believe that your system treats POWs well I need evidence because from my experience in a Caldari POW Camp Where I was tortured and sexually abused until the Camp came under Ishukone control and I was released was just as bad if not worse than Gallente POW camps


I'd like to see some proof that your personal experience was anything other than that - personal and illegal. As a former employee of the Peace and Order Unit I have some experience with Caldari Law Enforcement and am keen to see whether you are doing anything more than countering what you see as rumourmongering with more of the same.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#40 - 2016-08-07 00:06:09 UTC
I wish to convey this in the most polite manner possible, theoretical atrocities, or even legitimate ones have no place in a public financial release.
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