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EVE too "JOBBY"?

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Yochi Miyatsuda
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-08-01 11:57:17 UTC
My sub runs out in Nov.

I don' t think I'll be renewing.

I've lost my motivation for the game.

EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp.

Most activities are time intensive and low reward.

The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network).

Citadels show this to be a continuing trend.

Has EVE become too "jobby?"
Memphis Baas
#2 - 2016-08-01 12:02:11 UTC
Not anymore than any other game, IMO, and I'm playing a few, online and single-player.

But, it's ok to take a break from any game, EVE included. Or quit it if you don't like it anymore. Not a big deal.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#3 - 2016-08-01 12:04:26 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Not anymore than any other game, IMO, and I'm playing a few, online and single-player.

But, it's ok to take a break from any game, EVE included. Or quit it if you don't like it anymore. Not a big deal.

Quitting EVE? Blasphemous!

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#4 - 2016-08-01 12:04:36 UTC
If by 'jobby' you're referring to the Scottish definition, then, probably yes, EVE is too 'jobby'

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Maekchu
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-08-01 12:11:43 UTC
Too time intensive and low rewards? You probably should consider getting out of highsec :P

Jokes aside, a break from EvE is decent from time to time. One gets burned out, since the game requires effort to make stuff happen, opposed to other games where content is spoon-fed to you.

If you don't plan to ever come back, then I don't see a problem either. Maybe EvE was not your cup of tea to begin with.
Erebus Vain
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-08-01 12:13:45 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
If by 'jobby' you're referring to the Scottish definition, then, probably yes, EVE is too 'jobby'


I hope your meaning of 'Jobby' isn't the same as my meaning of 'Jobby'. It would make that statement more than a little different, although still relevant.



Shame.
Valerius Ravin
#7 - 2016-08-01 12:17:17 UTC
I make 200-500 mil a day with something that isn't really grindy at all depending on how you look at it, i enjoy it and it's easy and relaxing while chatting with others. Get enough for a plex, get some extra to spend on pvp ships and the rest of the month I'm free to do whatever. You can work hard or you can work smart.
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-08-01 12:18:42 UTC
I think the new event is too Jobby....

...and the requirement for the Zeugma ****yzer I've found the blueprint for and will be unable to sell...damn....

too Jobby Zeugma....
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#9 - 2016-08-01 12:18:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days.

CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#10 - 2016-08-01 12:20:21 UTC
Can Doc have your stuff?


☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-08-01 12:21:29 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...

Given all the complaints I've read on the forums, I would not be surprised if this would be the case. Well put :D
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-08-01 12:32:19 UTC
Yochi Miyatsuda wrote:
My sub runs out in Nov.

I don' t think I'll be renewing.

I've lost my motivation for the game.

EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp.

Most activities are time intensive and low reward.

The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network).

Citadels show this to be a continuing trend.

Has EVE become too "jobby?"


you are complaining eve is jobby, well thats because you are concerned about rewards

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#13 - 2016-08-01 12:32:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
No worries.

EvE is full repetitious and tedious parts that overshadow the scant hours of exhilaration and fun.

We play for the fun parts - and we all have different ideas of the fun parts - but unless you're playing EvE as a 100% wallet warrior, you need a way to support the fun parts. That support can be repetitious... PI, missions, mining, etc. For many, the repetition leads to burn out that even the fun parts can't override.

Take a break. Come back refreshed.

In this way, yes, it's like a job. Sometimes you just need a vacation from your career to allow the boredom to subside and bring the fun back to the front of your mind. Let nostalgia do its job.

Sometimes you just need a different perspective. Take some time off and volunteer for some other task.
Take time away from EvE and try a different game to remind yourself what you liked and didn't like.

If after a long time away, you still feel that you'd rather do anything BUT log into EvE, then maybe it's time to call it quits for good.

Also, in this way, EvE is like a job.




Enjoy the vacay. Hope to see you back soon.

--Gadget (who may or may not be taking a small No Man's Sky break soon-ish)

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#14 - 2016-08-01 12:48:56 UTC
I do things in the game that entertain me. If it doesnt entertain me i dont do it. I switch between various tasks in game regularly depending on my mood. I dont worry about the rewards. When you get caught up in efficiency and maxing x amount in y amount of time you turn it into a job and you become a virtual wage slave.

It makes the game more enjoyable to play this way and i dont feel more committed to eve than to my wife or my real job. It requires balance.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-08-01 13:04:00 UTC
Yochi Miyatsuda wrote:
My sub runs out in Nov.

I don' t think I'll be renewing.

I've lost my motivation for the game.

EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp.

Most activities are time intensive and low reward.

The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network).

Citadels show this to be a continuing trend.

Has EVE become too "jobby?"

Can I have you stuff and SP? If you don't like Eve any more it's okay to leave but the gameplay hasn't really changed so it's just that YOU are bored. Bye, and don't forget about your stuff.
Judaa K'Marr
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#16 - 2016-08-01 13:22:49 UTC
Well, you can find a group with full srp for losses, you only ever need to grind the ship once and never again. Solo'ing you can go pretty long flying t1 ships fit with cheap meta modules, you can make a PLEX last forever since the insurance will buy back most of it.
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#17 - 2016-08-01 13:40:53 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days.

CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...

Exactly. A lot of stuff has been taken out the game and simplified, and so if anything it is the opposite.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2016-08-01 13:53:49 UTC
Gadget it hit on the head as did Jenn aSide's second paragraph.

If it feels like a job its because it is. All human tasks if done enough will elicit some sort of grind/repetitive style. Honestly my boxing coach said the same thing about boxing too and funny enough it came to pass even fighting someone else in a ring. Eventually its like going to work because youve done it so many times.

Some of us in our lives get to find jobs we love. Jobs we literally DONT need a vacation from. This is rare in life as it is in a game. Honestly in Eve I have found something I can literally do 7 days a week for 12 or more hours a day and still NOT find it boring, even though parts of it can get very "ugh" at times. Years ago when ET was young I used to do a week of something and then another week of something else and so on until I came back to the first thing again. This gave me enough time doing something newish that I didnt get bored fast grinding the same content. Then I found making goals for myself and havent looked back. The only time Eve felt dull was when the bucket list and goals to accomplish really ran dry for my particular play style. I do literally a bit of everything, or have in the past, and until most of the new Eve started rolling in I was hardpressed to find truly new things to do.

People can help this feeling a lot as well as they can in any normal work environment. Toxic people or people you hate being around burn you out faster than people you like. I personally find its people I have to take the break from and that burn me out the fastest. This is coming from a guy that has literally gone 6 weeks at stretches out in the wilderness never seeing/talking to/interacting another person. So I would say Im 'socially' different than most people. Finding "YOUR" people will help tide yourself through those boring breaks.


And if Eve isnt for you well so be it. People, even really successful people, leave jobs for new ones all the time to start over fresh somewhere else. Best of luck to you.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Yochi Miyatsuda
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-08-01 14:07:59 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days.

CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...


T-T-T-TRIGGERED! Lol
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#20 - 2016-08-01 14:09:53 UTC
Back when Eve wasn't yet nicknamed "Internet Spaceships", it was called "Second Job Online". Probably for a reason ))
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