Missions & Complexes

I've had some odd rat aggro switches today. Mission rats that I've never seen target drones, like mission battleships, have been targeting my drones. Anyone else experiencing odd aggro switches?

I can't find it but I know someone posted about a "glitch" that was reintroduced not that long ago. Can't remember the details but the fix was to setup a safe spot in the system.. fly there.. eject... then get back into your ship. Something about that reset the way drones were being targeted.

Maybe that will help and if I find out posted the original fix then I'll link it.

They really need to change it back, I know afking is kinda BS but they have made it overkill running missions in my Pally i can't hit frigs unless i use my light drones but the damn things insta lock my light drones and kill them before i can even recall. It's launch they start dying recall lose 1 or 2 per cycle which is costing me isk and it takes 30 minutes just to kill frig cause i am constantly launching and recalling i lose about 2 per frig and some missions have so many i have to go back to station and restock it ruins blitzing plus the isk loss hurts my ticks. They need to either calm the aggro down or make it where you don't have to kill frigs to continue on with the mission. And before the flaming starts, PVE is a part of this game and some ppl enjoy it, if CCP wants to just destroy PVE just go ahead and make the entire game low and null sec, but they can't do that cause half there subscribers would quit. Stop making it so PVE'ers can't make fast isk they are only doing this stuff so ppl will be forced to buy plexs and aur to supplement the isk to enjoy the game which is really crappy on CCPs part anyways sorry for the rant just getting annoyed with the constant gimps to PVE.

This is true its still takes time tho Pally's don't lock frigs very fast but that's not all that sucks at the best of times you can get 20 mill a tick which is 60 mill an hour where as null sec guys can get 300-500 million and hour and yes i know that's tons of risk but with a good corp alliance and controlled space that risk becomes almost 0, and lets be honest 60 million an hour isn't crap i mean 10 hours non stop for 600 million where as the null sec guys can make that in an hour. And if your doing PVE to fund your PVP which is the best part of this game and which i do on my main, 600 million is what 2 very good BS which you can lose in 2 minutes if your not careful or have a bad night but it takes ya 10 hours to get it, and i am not saying make PVE where it's cake and we make 250-500 million an hour just give us a small break with the aggro on our drones that's not to much to ask. Heck just make it to where if a player doesn't activate a module or fire a weapon or give the drones a command every 60 seconds that person is logged out of the game problem solved. Ok i will shut up now i said my piece

Pally sucks, use Dominix. LMJD away and kill all small rats form 100 KM as they are burning toward you with 0 transversal. Sentry drones melt them hard with 0 ammunition costs and no need to swap cristalls to change the range. One rig, three omnidirectional tracking computers and optimal for wardens is about 150 km, curators - over 100.[/quote


Domi is not ideal for level 4's you would be pwned 95% of the time and even if you could do it the amount of micro managing just to stay alive is BS for 20 million isk ticks, for such crappy pay you should be about to just relax and do it, not doing PVE like that for crap rewards to have to work hard as hell. Now if they up rat bounties and make it about 80-100 million a tick then hell ya i will work my ass off, but thats all moot i only run level 4's to get my standing back up from PVPing but i am blessed with a good job and buy AUR for my 4 toons i SP farm and buy plexs to support my PVP habit but 10's of thousands of other players can't do that, think about it they had to spend prolly a billion or more for skills books year or more of training all the while grinding level 1-3 missions just so they could pay for all those skill books implants ships and what not. How is that fair all that time and money to get to level 4 missions to only be rewarded 20 mill a tick working your ass off just to stay alive. If you do the math it would take years running level 4 missions 10 hours a day 7 days a week just to break even on all those things. The fact no one sees a problem with this is really sad and before anyone says go to Null, A lot of ppl enjoy PVE and don't want to go to Null, they want to just play PVE eve, yes this is a PVP heavy game but why did CCP bother to even put PVE in like i said before if they want to do ppl like that remove high sec altogether. But here is the kicker if they did that it would cripple if not destroy the game PVPers just don't realize how much they depend on the PVEers the miners crafters if there was no high sec and safe area for these players the economy would collapse or things would cost so much you would spend more time PVEing yourself just to PVP with no safe areas at all trade routes would be destroyed moving items would be way to risky the miners would dry up other then Null sec cause the PVEers would quit cause they would be ganked more then they mined. But anyways it doesn't effect me cause i don't care about the PVE ticks just doing them for standing was trying to make a point for all the ppl that do depend on PVE for their living.

Wtf are you smoking? A domi crushes L4s cheaply and safely. There is basically no better bs if you mission in lowsec. You can fit a dual LAR brick tank, an injector, MJD, an AB, and neuts. Being pwnd 95% of the time... by NPCs? If you fit a domi correctly you wont even be pwnt by the low sec pirates that probe out your mission, much less even be an attractive target to them.
Domi is all sorts of ugly, the good kind as well as the bad.

I'd say loosing lights in less than five seconds after launching them because many frig rats instantly change locks and can snipe them like a pro is no fun. It'd help if they didn't stop between each target and sit completely still for several seconds too.

Umm, actually Domi is a RELAX ship to do L4 missions in high sec...
[Dominix, bling fit range tank]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Shadow Serpentis Large Armor Repairer

Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Drone Control Range Augmentor II
Large Ionic Field Projector II
Large Drone Scope Chip II

Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Curator II x5

You need couple of implants to fit that Mini-Moros...

With garde II it produces over 930 DPS with 40 km optimal or with curators II and aurora it is 800 dps with 115 optimal, with 0 recharge times. So you LMJD 100-150 km away from rats (150 is still optimal for wardens) and killing rats with stable fire and 0 micromanagement what so ever. Drones even firing if you jammed to oblivion, you know? Like FoF missiles but without damage delays... Range tank ftw.

Neuts are there for if you mission in low sec or null, or are a war target in high sec, and are used to cap out players that are attacking you. A heavy neut will cap out a frigate in a single cycle. A frigate without cap cant run a point or prop mod. If you are really paranoid ypu can even carry a flight of light ecm drones for that extra little bit of gtfo in case things are going wrong (from players).
Depending on where you mission, players may or may not be an issue, and even if they are, a domi usually isnt much of a kb prize.

It's a sad reality that missions are already tedious enough without having to add the tedium of drone micromanagement (launch, attack, recall, repeat)... Unfortunately there's no "go-to" weapons platform or system that is ideal for mission running (at least insofar as I've found yet).