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Stop the wars !!! I want to do my own thing !!!

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#81 - 2016-07-23 18:09:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#82 - 2016-07-23 18:23:48 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
You forget that new players are poor, they couldn't bid.
Unless they play the "pay to win" game (buying PLEX with RL money to sell it in game for ISK). What a sense of achievement Roll

That's probably what will sell the idea to the EA guy.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#83 - 2016-07-23 18:44:17 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:
You forget that new players are poor, they couldn't bid.
Unless they play the "pay to win" game (buying PLEX with RL money to sell it in game for ISK). What a sense of achievement Roll

That's probably what will sell the idea to the EA guy.
There's more than one ex EA employee at CCP IIRC What?

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Bishop Bob
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2016-07-23 19:12:39 UTC
I think this thread is a reasonable excuse for:

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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#85 - 2016-07-23 19:42:06 UTC
Yes, stop the wars, think of all the poor hamsters! No... Wait... nm... Roll
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#86 - 2016-07-23 23:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:
You forget that new players are poor, they couldn't bid.
Unless they play the "pay to win" game (buying PLEX with RL money to sell it in game for ISK). What a sense of achievement Roll

That's probably what will sell the idea to the EA guy.
There's more than one ex EA employee at CCP IIRC What?


At least 2...probably will be more as number of players logged in continues it's downward trend. Have to figure out a way to monetize those players that are left.

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Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#87 - 2016-07-23 23:48:12 UTC
It all boils down to who wardecced you.

If any of the major mercenary corporations/alliances have wardecced you, honestly...you are safe. Just stay away from trading hubs and shipping choke points and you will do just fine. Friend got wardecced by not one but two major merc alliances and never saw any of them for the whole week, since he operated not anywhere near a choke point or trade hub.

Now if you were wardecced by myself in my solo highsec wardec days, then you would be screwed because I would find out where you were and pay you a complimentary visit with my blasters...constantly for the whole week.

But rest assured, that type of wardec hunting is pretty much gone due to the changes to the watch list and not fixing locater agents to compensate.

So when you are wardecced, this is what you do:

1) Move local chat somewhere so it is not hidden by any other chat channel.
2) Don't AFK anything (mine, mission, rat, etc). If you have to go AFK, dock up...even if it just to go take a leak or get another Mountain Dew. I have popped war targets while they were afk making coffee.
3) If you are docked and you see a war target in local, don't undock. Can guarantee they know where you are and you are being watched...
4) When you see a war target come into system, dock up and stay there.
5) Assume that every neutral in system is one of their alts, looking for you. If you are mining and someone warps into your belt in a Venture, leave that belt...dock up for a couple of minutes and then go back to another belt. Always assume you are being watched...


And that concludes your safety lesson in wardec technololgy. Please send any and all 'contributions' to myself. Thank you and have a nice day...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#88 - 2016-07-23 23:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
@ Teckos

Yeah I know of at least one fairly recent hire that used to work at EA, the position that was filled is Chief Customer Officer. Sean Decker is the other one I know about, according to google he's the Senior VP of Product Development.

[tinfoil]

Is EA slowly infiltrating CCP in order to assimilate CCP like so many companies before it?

[/tinfoil]

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Decaneos
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#89 - 2016-07-24 00:56:42 UTC
TO be fair to the game, you pay a bribe to allow concord to turn a blind eye to a war, so why can you not bribe concord to not let it happen?
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#90 - 2016-07-24 01:53:30 UTC
Elsia Browne wrote:
I CALL BS! TOTAL F'n BS!
Thanks. Another intelligent person stands up to the blizzard of bovine scatology. Noooooo, they're not REALLY saying "Play any way you want as long as it's the way I want." Nuuuuuuuu....

They're being "rational" and "logical" and all that -al stuff!

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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#91 - 2016-07-24 02:09:34 UTC
Decaneos wrote:
TO be fair to the game, you pay a bribe to allow concord to turn a blind eye to a war, so why can you not bribe concord to not let it happen?


While it is an interesting and amusing idea, I don't see it as a good idea as either there would be no wars, or the bid/counterbid game would lead to only one or two entities able to play at war games.
Jasmine Deer
Perkone
Caldari State
#92 - 2016-07-24 02:39:50 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Your actions in Eve have consequences, that includes your forum posting.


That is true. Some players see the forums as part of the meta-game.
I'm just wondering if it is healthy for forum discussion and fostering a sense of community in general for experienced, well resourced players to be targeting players in-game just because they express a contrary opinion.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#93 - 2016-07-24 04:04:21 UTC
Jasmine Deer wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Your actions in Eve have consequences, that includes your forum posting.


That is true. Some players see the forums as part of the meta-game.
I'm just wondering if it is healthy for forum discussion and fostering a sense of community in general for experienced, well resourced players to be targeting players in-game just because they express a contrary opinion.

yes, this is eve.
when your stated opinion is " one more nerf™ " to a beleaguered play style you should expect reprisals.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#94 - 2016-07-24 05:23:41 UTC
Decaneos wrote:
TO be fair to the game, you pay a bribe to allow concord to turn a blind eye to a war, so why can you not bribe concord to not let it happen?

Because CONCORD only accepts bribes to not do their work.

They respond by default. We don't need to pay them more ISK to do what they already do, only to not do it.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#95 - 2016-07-24 06:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Decaneos wrote:
TO be fair to the game, you pay a bribe to allow concord to turn a blind eye to a war, so why can you not bribe concord to not let it happen?

Because CONCORD only accepts bribes to not do their work.

They respond by default. We don't need to pay them more ISK to do what they already do, only to not do it.

You seem to forgot that if someone comes to CONCORD and wants wardeck they have to send mail to you, and declare something. Having doors shut for every such client who comes and wants something is actually less work.
So bribing them to not do their work would work in this case.
Less work for CONCORD.

Move to null if you want war then.
Actually CCP may be on the tracks there.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#96 - 2016-07-24 09:21:53 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
I had a silly idea when I read the OP. What if you could pay off concord?

[snip]


Yes, that is what a war dec is essentially. Somebody has paid CONCORD to look the other way when they come to shoot your stuff.

Yes but if you hadnt "snipped" and instead read you wouldve read a funny idea to turn that pay off into both an isk sink and an interesting lil mini game, a psychological game of isk "chicken" between players, corps or alliances..... good thing you dont read much though...Roll


It already is an ISK sink. Mini games tend to suck.

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Mortlake
Republic Military School
#97 - 2016-07-24 09:30:57 UTC
In my experience, if you're not a schlong and you don't draw attentuon to yourself you're unlikely to be decced if your corp remains small. Of course you won't prevent random decs, but the key to not being redecced is to not be a johnson about it vocally and not lose shiny stuff. Don't give people a reason to redec you, basically.

It's only a week, after all.

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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#98 - 2016-07-24 10:14:11 UTC
Mortlake wrote:
In my experience, if you're not a schlong and you don't draw attentuon to yourself you're unlikely to be decced if your corp remains small. Of course you won't prevent random decs, but the key to not being redecced is to not be a johnson about it vocally and not lose shiny stuff. Don't give people a reason to redec you, basically.

It's only a week, after all.


lol

I would like you to experience a different situation:

You have a job and your boss comes to you and says...

"I will not pay you a week of your monthly job.....but it's only a week after all !"

Same goes for the many players that dock for a week of paid subscription to avoid being blamed if their corps is chain-decced for he lost a ship during wardec....
Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#99 - 2016-07-24 11:04:14 UTC
So you want all the benefits and none of the drawbacks?
Ok.
Oh, i'm mentally pathological and people who don't want to be subject to wardecs are victims, right?
When you call someone flawed because they disagree with you, that's totalitarianism.
Announcing you're a victim is utterly meaningless, but very modern.
Here's your solution for the pesky wardec problem...
i end about half my posts with it...
...wait for it...
get out of empire.


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Mortlake
Republic Military School
#100 - 2016-07-24 11:06:39 UTC
Lucy Lollipops wrote:
Mortlake wrote:
In my experience, if you're not a schlong and you don't draw attentuon to yourself you're unlikely to be decced if your corp remains small. Of course you won't prevent random decs, but the key to not being redecced is to not be a johnson about it vocally and not lose shiny stuff. Don't give people a reason to redec you, basically.

It's only a week, after all.


You have a job and your boss comes to you and says...



Stopped reading there. This is a game.

Stop being a victim and adapt.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...