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Mika Firestorm
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#21 - 2016-07-23 18:29:46 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:

I find the actions of two capsuleers fighting in an "honorbrawl" distasteful. If you have a problem with someone either talk it out, or if negotiations fail prove your point in a starship. I find it distasteful because I find the whole mess annoying. Diana is failing to hold herself the the Caldari standard. And all parties involved just need to talk in private and leave the IGS out of it.

As I understood, she knew it was a trap, yet she agreed to his conditions. I think she was just looking for adventures and was cruising for a bruising.

And I agree, they should have solved it in private instead of pouring it here. Though I don't think they even tried. That all initial post and discussion is nothing than straightforward trolling of a girl, who is incredibly easy and allows anyone to troll her, biting back and providing them their "entertainment".

Do you think it can be managed and solved?.. I don't.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-07-23 21:55:40 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
While it saddens me to admit it, this footage seems genuine. Diana, what were you thinking?

However, if it is of honor we speak, then hand to hand combat is as pointless as putting blasters on a leviathan class titan.

We are all capsuleers, regardless of affiliation or upbringing. We were reborn to become living weapons. We belong in space. We should fight in space. And I believe no true capsuleer worth anything should have it any other way.

Life is not fair. Honor is as dead as the Jove home world. Fight each other all you wish. But cease this nonsense of pretending that we have honor. We can do, aboard a starship, what an entire elite crew cannot do. And we use this to our advantage, that is not honor, it is intellect and tactics.

Strike Commander Kim, you should know better than to kowtow to others. Show restraint of mouth and defeat your foe on a real battlefield. Your words are a disgrace.

Xadiran, you have repeatedly antagonize Kim in an effort to garner such a response as this. What did you expect. I am glad you brought this to our attention, but you should not have sought it out in the first place.

And Jason, while this matter is serious, and satire is not at this moment welcome, you made me laugh.


Karina,

You really do confuse me sometimes. You claim that capsuleers don't have any honor, yet you take offense to this action. If honor is not a factor, why do you find this action distasteful?


I find the actions of two capsuleers fighting in an "honorbrawl" distasteful. If you have a problem with someone either talk it out, or if negotiations fail prove your point in a starship. I find it distasteful because I find the whole mess annoying. Diana is failing to hold herself the the Caldari standard. And all parties involved just need to talk in private and leave the IGS out of it.


So you find this outcome just as distasteful as any other potential outcome of the "honor brawl"? Because if it is the honor brawl itself you find distasteful, and not dishonorable actions (as you have claimed to not believe in honor, full stop), then this should be the case, no? If Diana wouldn't have brought guns and discharged them, would it have been just as distasteful to you?

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2016-07-23 21:57:03 UTC
By the way, Mika, nothing about what I said was an ad hominem attack. I was asking a question to those people in the thread not named Diana and Mika, and there was no "argument" nor attack on your person.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2016-07-23 22:38:10 UTC
In a word Jason, yes.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-07-23 23:11:28 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
In a word Jason, yes.


I don't think I'd be willing to go that far, hence I do believe in honor. But we can disagree respectfully.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2016-07-23 23:35:40 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
In a word Jason, yes.


I don't think I'd be willing to go that far, hence I do believe in honor. But we can disagree respectfully.


Of course Jason. You may be Gallenteans, but you are not my foe.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-07-23 23:40:08 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
In a word Jason, yes.


I don't think I'd be willing to go that far, hence I do believe in honor. But we can disagree respectfully.


Of course Jason. You may be Gallenteans, but you are not my foe.


Eh.. don't put labels on me.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2016-07-23 23:46:53 UTC
It was pun on your name. I see my attempt at humor has failed. I shall refrain from humor from now on.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2016-07-24 05:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Mika Firestorm wrote:


Elmund Egivand wrote:

Finally, stations, and I mean actual stations, not POSes, are quite spacious. People LIVE and WORK and PURSUE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES in them full time. They cannot be too cramped or else they will start affecting the personnel and residents WHO LIVE IN THEM FULL TIME psychologically. Not to mention hygiene and health concerns. The more cramped a population center is the greater the risk of an outbreak spreading through the population like wildfire. Even the most cramped of stations, for example, any station built by the Minmatar Republic or affiliates, have wide open plazas where the citizens can gather and get some purer recycled air.

Even the most densely populated stations are no worse than the most densely populated planetside city.

Gyms aren't the wide open plazas and places where you'd gather to protest against something, and please don't tell me you would go to the gym to enjoy smelling air there. Though, you have a right even for such kinks.



Gyms are places to PURSUE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. So yes, there are also gyms on some stations depending on culture of the station dwellers. Gyms are also used for relief purposes and yes, people do hold protests in gyms too. Protestors don't care exactly where they hold their placards for as long as it's a wide enough area to gather in numbers and has high visibility. That means plazas, docks, boulevards and yes, gyms.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#30 - 2016-07-24 06:09:12 UTC
Ah, the good old gym and tonic.

Or was that gin?

I forget.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2016-07-24 06:15:35 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Ah, the good old gym and tonic.

Or was that gin?

I forget.


Gin and tonic.

I prefer whiskey.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#32 - 2016-07-24 07:23:31 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Oh, and look at this, another minmatar primitive and savage dog barks at Caldari Officers.

Now an illegal stationary weapon system is an "unarmed opponent" for you?

I think the feed clearly shows I wasn't shooting at anything or anybody alive, but thanks for showing your degree of intellect once again, savage.


You prattling fool I was talking about the time you attempted, in your own clumsy way, to attack me, not about your "honor duel".

I was unarmed and had no idea you would be on that beach. You tried to ambush me but failed. So it seems that a pair of primatives thwarted your grand plan. What does that say about your supposed superiority?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#33 - 2016-07-24 07:26:23 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:

As I understood, she knew it was a trap, yet she agreed to his conditions. I think she was just looking for adventures and was cruising for a bruising.

And I agree, they should have solved it in private instead of pouring it here. Though I don't think they even tried. That all initial post and discussion is nothing than straightforward trolling of a girl, who is incredibly easy and allows anyone to troll her, biting back and providing them their "entertainment".

Do you think it can be managed and solved?.. I don't.

And you as Kim's designated sock puppet should know, yes?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2016-07-24 12:10:17 UTC
Mika Firestorm wrote:

Diana, for freaking sake, if you would have used your BRAINS instead of your GUNS, you could have easily evaded both his trap and the drama he is pouring on you. If you would just make pictures of these devices and put them here, instead of shooting them, you could have just blamed him in dishonorable conduct with him having nothing against you.

I don't know what that woman told you to provoke such a reaction from you, but damn, girl, learn to control yourself. They are just manipulating you.

You are NOT my mother. The situation is under control. The gallentean has disgraced himself. While legality of my actions are questionable, I never broke any of my words, and questioning my honor over this situation is straighforwardly stupid.

Anabella Rella wrote:

You prattling fool I was talking about the time you attempted, in your own clumsy way, to attack me, not about your "honor duel".

First, you are nothing but a rabid animal and shall be shot on contact.

Second, it wasn't actually "duel", as I evade formal duel challenges from formal enemies. It was supposed to be a fight on fists.

And third. Try to read the topic where you are posting, savage. It was about that "honor duel", well... unarmed fight, that was rigged by this gallentean, who tried to catch me with his sonic weapons, it had nothing to do with my attempt to eliminate you. And wheter I didn't succeed it because the girl I met decided to save your pathetic bum, I have killed you regardless in a ship fight. And will do again if I ever see you in space or planetside.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Felise Selunix
Keyholder Investment Group
#35 - 2016-07-24 17:37:24 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
Life is not fair. Honor is is dead as the Jove home world. Fight each other all you wish. But cease this nonsense of pretending that we have honor. We can do, aboard a starship, what an entire elite crew cannot do. And we use this to our advantage, that is not honor, it is intellect and tactics.


Just wanted to second this. As far as I've seen thus far, honor tends to exist solely to be besmirched for the purposes of fighting someone, which seems like an unnecessary middleman. Fight, don't fight, either way is fine. But let's drop the pretense that beating someone to a pulp over 'honor' is doing anyone any good.

I'll still try to find a way to make isk off of it though, I'm hypocritical that way.Big smile
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#36 - 2016-07-24 21:41:27 UTC
Oh hey, guns where, Inner Circle Tribunal? D, I could've explained you having these at your living quarters since you probably have a lot of friends in the Navy, but what you did and what you are still doing here is not quite smart.

I admitted being outskilled because there is no shame in taking a defeat - you always learn from these, afterall. It's time you did the same thing.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-07-25 08:53:39 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Oh hey, guns where, Inner Circle Tribunal? D, I could've explained you having these at your living quarters since you probably have a lot of friends in the Navy, but what you did and what you are still doing here is not quite smart.

I admitted being outskilled because there is no shame in taking a defeat - you always learn from these, afterall. It's time you did the same thing.

Oh, I could take a defeat, of course... but how would I take it when a gallentean instead of fighting me puts sonic weapon traps against me, and when was asked to come to secure location, he sent others to get me instead.

The fight didn't happen because of his cowardice.

Where was this unarmed gallentean? Where?... First time I faced sonic projectors, second time I faced CONCORD team. Should I admit defeat to them?...

Fine. I admit my defeat to CONCORD and draw to gallentean sonic traps (I have destroyed one of them, which was pointed at, and had to withdraw from others, that were hidden). While these traps didn't manage to destroy anything of mine... except my trust to Xadiran.

Happy now?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#38 - 2016-07-25 10:53:41 UTC
For Maker's sake, do you believe in what you are saying? It's not about me being happy, it's not about nationality, it's about being at least professional.

It's called highsec for a reason - do you really think the literal heart of CONCORD wouldn't be protected with top notch electronics? You're lucky there weren't any turrets there, if you were a baseliner, you'd probably be serving a life sentence for a terrorist act.

You should get your girl friends and have a proper hen party. Because if you continue being so tensed, one day your psyche will crumble down like a cardhouse.
Yarosara Ruil
#39 - 2016-07-25 12:09:35 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
And you as Kim's designated sock puppet should know, yes?


SCREEEWW YOOOUUU!!!

I'm sorry, but hearing the words "sock puppet" triggers me like something fierce.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2016-07-25 13:00:15 UTC
I will now wear a sock on my hand and practice ventriloquism.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

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