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Security Feed from supposed 'duel' with Diana

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Xadiran
Moira.
#1 - 2016-07-22 19:20:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Xadiran
I really hate giving the little rat more attention, but I also figured I should make this available for public record.

This is recorded footage from the encounter on the 19th at the Inner Circle tribunal station. For the record, it was hand-to-hand sparring which Diana and I had agreed upon. For my safety, and because of my correct lack of trust in Diana, I was out of the room during the event.


Location: Yulai, Inner Circle Tribunal Station
Civilian lower levels, recreational section, Gymnasium 6-B


Timestamp: [118.07.19 07:01:49]

Video Only



The recording begins, capturing the moment Diana Kim enters the gymnasium and approaches Luna Lapointe, standing off to the side of a raised circular platform in the center of the room. A pair of handguns are visible on Diana’s belt.

Luna takes a step back as Diana approaches, and words are exchanged. Diana arms herself with the two weapons. More words are exchanged, at which point Diana offers one of the weapons to Luna. More words are exchanged, and Diana offers the second. Several more words are exchanged, at which point Luna points at several areas on the domed ceiling. She accepts both handguns, and places them on a table away from the platform.

Luna then turns her back to Diana, placing a hand to her ear and speaking to someone with a communication device. At that moment, Diana can be seen drawing two more handguns from behind her back, and opening fire on one of the locations Luna had pointed towards.

Luna immediately turns, takes a crouched stance, and can be seen yelling at Diana. At this point, a faint claxon is heard on the video as a security-system audio overlay, indicating station security has been breached.

One device can be seen opening on the ceiling, and Luna and Diana both fall to the floor. Luna is on one knee, hands over her ears. Diana drops her weapons, and begins scrambling for the doorway. Luna once again stands, and can be seen shouting at Diana. Xadiran can then be seen entering the frame and grabbing Luna, escorting her back out of frame.


Diana slips out the door, and several moments later armed station personnel can be seen entering from the doorway, as well as from off screen. Several guards then leave the room, as others move off screen to where Xadiran and Luna went. The feed continues for short period of time with two guards remaining in the gymnasium before cutting off.


End of recording Timestamp [118.07.19 07:21:40]
Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2016-07-22 19:41:24 UTC
And she speaks of honor
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-07-22 21:02:52 UTC
Diana Kim honors all duels, you lying Gallentean dogpig! This footage is clearly less objective than Diana Kim's word as a

C A L D A R I
O F F I C E R

That trumps all footage, filthy frog.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2016-07-23 03:40:46 UTC
It would not surprise me if at our "duel" Luna showed up with a Logistics Ak.o dropsuit and a Lai Dai Flux repair tool
Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-07-23 04:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Karina Ivanovich
While it saddens me to admit it, this footage seems genuine. Diana, what were you thinking?

However, if it is of honor we speak, then hand to hand combat is as pointless as putting blasters on a leviathan class titan.

We are all capsuleers, regardless of affiliation or upbringing. We were reborn to become living weapons. We belong in space. We should fight in space. And I believe no true capsuleer worth anything should have it any other way.

Life is not fair. Honor is as dead as the Jove home world. Fight each other all you wish. But cease this nonsense of pretending that we have honor. We can do, aboard a starship, what an entire elite crew cannot do. And we use this to our advantage, that is not honor, it is intellect and tactics.

Strike Commander Kim, you should know better than to kowtow to others. Show restraint of mouth and defeat your foe on a real battlefield. Your words are a disgrace.

Xadiran, you have repeatedly antagonize Kim in an effort to garner such a response as this. What did you expect. I am glad you brought this to our attention, but you should not have sought it out in the first place.

And Jason, while this matter is serious, and satire is not at this moment welcome, you made me laugh.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.

Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#6 - 2016-07-23 06:14:30 UTC
This just in: Diana Kim is an honorless, backstabbing toadie. In other news water is wet and sunshine is warm.

And now back to our regularly scheduled squabbling... Roll
Xadiran
Moira.
#7 - 2016-07-23 06:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Xadiran
I will admit, I have intentionally tried to get a rise out of Kim, but I have also tried to be nice at times as well. The results, unsurprisingly, are the same.

It was her, however, that repeatedly challenged me to these so-called honour duels. I refused repeatedly out of principle and better judgement, but I finally decided to go ahead and accept, making sure to choose as non-violent a means as possible.

I had hoped that the whole silly thing would end up with a little bit of kicking and punching, Diana tiring herself out, and then everyone leaving with their eyeballs intact. I wanted to at least prove her rhetoric wrong TO her, maybe chip away a little at that brainwashing.

Instead, she smuggled guns inside with full intent to use them ( a felony) and then used them (another felony) and then ran from authorities (guess what? that's a felony). Not the outcome I was hoping for, but at least we can add this to the file of Diana's hypocrisy.

The takeaway here is that , I do believe some of us have a strong sense of honour, and I think that Diana has finally proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she has none, despite all her bluster trying to desperately convince anyone of the contrary.

The worst part of all of this, however, may be that she is definitely not going to try any of the gourmet sorbet's I sent her.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#8 - 2016-07-23 06:36:43 UTC
This sort of behavior from Kim should come as no surprise. I was once visiting a friend's private retreat (unarmed of course) when Kim showed up uninvited, armed to the teeth and attempted to kill me. After Kim was subdued my friend removed over a dozen assorted knives and guns from her person.

Forget honor; where's the sport in attacking an unarmed opponent?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-07-23 07:57:45 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
While it saddens me to admit it, this footage seems genuine. Diana, what were you thinking?

That the gallentean set up a trap against me.

You see, I didn't violate rules of the fight I have agreed to, I didn't shoot him and I was taking down my weapons in preparation for the fight. I have opened fire on a supposed sonic crowd-control device that was installed in the room by gallentean, who had access to facility before me.

They were claiming it was CONCORD, but such sort of weaponry wasn't found by me among allowed station security devices.

I tried to just to disarm the traps that gallenteans put there, but it seems there were multiple of them, not just one.

After I demanded the gallentean to appear in a neutral territory where he didn't have chance to rig the arena beforehand and sent him a location only he should know, he sent a squad to get me instead.



Yes, I have agreed to fight in hand to hand sparring, I just took guns with me in transit in case this gallentean would try something stupid. Obviously he did. And he dishonored himself twice that day, twice failing to meet me in hand to hand combat: first by rigging the arena by his devices, and second - by refusing to appear and sending others to get me.

Shame to you, Xadiran.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-07-23 08:03:11 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Forget honor; where's the sport in attacking an unarmed opponent?

Oh, and look at this, another minmatar primitive and savage dog barks at Caldari Officers.

Now an illegal stationary weapon system is an "unarmed opponent" for you?

I think the feed clearly shows I wasn't shooting at anything or anybody alive, but thanks for showing your degree of intellect once again, savage.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-07-23 08:29:10 UTC
Xadiran wrote:
I will admit, I have intentionally tried to get a rise out of Kim, but I have also tried to be nice at times as well. The results, unsurprisingly, are the same.

It was her, however, that repeatedly challenged me to these so-called honour duels. I refused repeatedly out of principle and better judgement, but I finally decided to go ahead and accept, making sure to choose as non-violent a means as possible.

Bring in a date and time where I have challenged you to honor duel, or admit yourself publically in being a liar.

You have challenged me, and you insisted it would be hand to hand duel. There were no agreement on putting illegal sonic weapons in the fighting arena.

Xadiran wrote:

Instead, she smuggled guns inside with full intent to use them ( a felony) and then used them (another felony) and then ran from authorities (guess what? that's a felony). Not the outcome I was hoping for, but at least we can add this to the file of Diana's hypocrisy.

You have no idea what my intent was, lying fedo.
And don't talk about hypocrisy, since you brought stationary sonic devices to the arena, and now making crap because what? Because I started shooting at your weapons, that you installed there? Do you even realize it? YOUR weapon shot at me, while I didn't even pointed my gun in your direction.

Xadiran wrote:

The takeaway here is that , I do believe some of us have a strong sense of honour, and I think that Diana has finally proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she has none, despite all her bluster trying to desperately convince anyone of the contrary.

No, you gallentean scum. You have proven that you have no sense of honor. And you proved it twice. You suggested unarmed fight, and you blown it twice.
TWICE, gallentean.

I keep my words and my honor. While you have none.

Xadiran wrote:

The worst part of all of this, however, may be that she is definitely not going to try any of the gourmet sorbet's I sent her.

It will be sent to industrial disposal unit as a biohazard material. I am pretty sure it is just your third attempt at getting me by your now usual dishonorable means.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#12 - 2016-07-23 11:15:15 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
While it saddens me to admit it, this footage seems genuine. Diana, what were you thinking?

That the gallentean set up a trap against me.

You see, I didn't violate rules of the fight I have agreed to, I didn't shoot him and I was taking down my weapons in preparation for the fight. I have opened fire on a supposed sonic crowd-control device that was installed in the room by gallentean, who had access to facility before me.

They were claiming it was CONCORD, but such sort of weaponry wasn't found by me among allowed station security devices.

I tried to just to disarm the traps that gallenteans put there, but it seems there were multiple of them, not just one.

After I demanded the gallentean to appear in a neutral territory where he didn't have chance to rig the arena beforehand and sent him a location only he should know, he sent a squad to get me instead.



Yes, I have agreed to fight in hand to hand sparring, I just took guns with me in transit in case this gallentean would try something stupid. Obviously he did. And he dishonored himself twice that day, twice failing to meet me in hand to hand combat: first by rigging the arena by his devices, and second - by refusing to appear and sending others to get me.

Shame to you, Xadiran.

Diana, for freaking sake, if you would have used your BRAINS instead of your GUNS, you could have easily evaded both his trap and the drama he is pouring on you. If you would just make pictures of these devices and put them here, instead of shooting them, you could have just blamed him in dishonorable conduct with him having nothing against you.

I don't know what that woman told you to provoke such a reaction from you, but damn, girl, learn to control yourself. They are just manipulating you.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-07-23 12:09:54 UTC
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
While it saddens me to admit it, this footage seems genuine. Diana, what were you thinking?

However, if it is of honor we speak, then hand to hand combat is as pointless as putting blasters on a leviathan class titan.

We are all capsuleers, regardless of affiliation or upbringing. We were reborn to become living weapons. We belong in space. We should fight in space. And I believe no true capsuleer worth anything should have it any other way.

Life is not fair. Honor is as dead as the Jove home world. Fight each other all you wish. But cease this nonsense of pretending that we have honor. We can do, aboard a starship, what an entire elite crew cannot do. And we use this to our advantage, that is not honor, it is intellect and tactics.

Strike Commander Kim, you should know better than to kowtow to others. Show restraint of mouth and defeat your foe on a real battlefield. Your words are a disgrace.

Xadiran, you have repeatedly antagonize Kim in an effort to garner such a response as this. What did you expect. I am glad you brought this to our attention, but you should not have sought it out in the first place.

And Jason, while this matter is serious, and satire is not at this moment welcome, you made me laugh.


Karina,

You really do confuse me sometimes. You claim that capsuleers don't have any honor, yet you take offense to this action. If honor is not a factor, why do you find this action distasteful?

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-07-23 12:11:15 UTC
Xadiran wrote:
I will admit, I have intentionally tried to get a rise out of Kim, but I have also tried to be nice at times as well. The results, unsurprisingly, are the same.


Tell me about it..

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-07-23 12:21:02 UTC
Can we get a headcount here? Does anyone other than Diana and her logi support wing, Mika, actually believe that Xadiran and Luna had the approval and time in a 10 hour window to install crowd control devices large enough to tame an entire gymnasium? Anyone? Or do we think maybe it's more likely that, legal or not, they were previously installed station security? I mean, they sound like a reasonably effective security measure, I would want them if I was a station owner.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#16 - 2016-07-23 13:51:38 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Can we get a headcount here? Does anyone other than Diana and her logi support wing, Mika, actually believe that Xadiran and Luna had the approval and time in a 10 hour window to install crowd control devices large enough to tame an entire gymnasium? Anyone? Or do we think maybe it's more likely that, legal or not, they were previously installed station security? I mean, they sound like a reasonably effective security measure, I would want them if I was a station owner.

How comes I now am 'her'? Luckily, my ownership belongs only to me, and now I see why actually Diana so mad at you. It isn't actually the best practise to start making ad hominem arguments, in the best case it only shows your point as incorrect instead.

As for myself, having a medical background, I wouldn't want such devices on any station except penal colonies. These weapons can damage human auditory system and internal organs. They are used in riot control situations planetside, but I haven't seen their usage on any of civil installations and stations. I myself tried to find such devices in list of CONCORD station equipment, but they weren't mentioned anywhere.

Stations aren't very large, and rioting or civil disorder is something you don't really expect to find in a space station. From these rare cases that we already know about (Haatomo siege, etc), these situations were handled by security personnel.

If you want to prove the devices are legal and were actually installed by CONCORD, you should bring a reference to a document that shows that it is allowed to place such dangerous technology in a civil area of the station (or that CONCORD places them themselves in stations) instead of trying ad hominem attacks.

Otherwise, the facts are not in your favor. And even if you will bring a choir of Horde members for a "headcount", it won't make you right if you don't bring in solid proof.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2016-07-23 14:49:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Jason Galente wrote:
Can we get a headcount here? Does anyone other than Diana and her logi support wing, Mika, actually believe that Xadiran and Luna had the approval and time in a 10 hour window to install crowd control devices large enough to tame an entire gymnasium? Anyone? Or do we think maybe it's more likely that, legal or not, they were previously installed station security? I mean, they sound like a reasonably effective security measure, I would want them if I was a station owner.


If they are going to do this in a completely obvious manner, I say they can accomplish this in 10 hours. However, the result is going to be a haphazard mess. The devices will not be hidden. A number of them will be damaged due to them being tossed around. Moreover, anyone will be able to see them running and jumping all over the place like hunting slaver hounds.

Also, understanding how station bureaucracy works, unless they already have applied for approval at least 24 hours in advance, I don't see how they can get the permission to install these devices within ten hours of application.

Finally, stations, and I mean actual stations, not POSes, are quite spacious. People LIVE and WORK and PURSUE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES in them full time. They cannot be too cramped or else they will start affecting the personnel and residents WHO LIVE IN THEM FULL TIME psychologically. Not to mention hygiene and health concerns. The more cramped a population center is the greater the risk of an outbreak spreading through the population like wildfire. Even the most cramped of stations, for example, any station built by the Minmatar Republic or affiliates, have wide open plazas where the citizens can gather and get some purer recycled air.

Even the most densely populated stations are no worse than the most densely populated planetside city.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#18 - 2016-07-23 15:55:02 UTC
Now, while i wasn't there, the feed does show Ms Kim turning up with at least 4 sidearms, to a duel she claimed was to be unarmed, then keeping 2 of them hidden until she discharges them.
Seemingly at a device she was told was set up.

I would hazard a guess that the devices in question were short ranged, and intended to both disable either of the two combatants, should they try to leave prior to the duel being settled, and ensure than no one else entered the place in question.

Since this is the most likely reason for their positioning, it brings into question ms Kim's reasoning for firing upon them, as she could only possibly have needed it removed if she thought she would have to leave, or would require support during an honour duel she personally requested.

Also, given the fact that most station security measures only allow for smartguns to be brought on board, and they are disabled while on site, it means the weapons brought onto the station were either smuggled in illegally, or illegally chipped to allow their use in non-sanctioned areas. As both of these things are both illegal and highly dishonourable actions, well...

for someone who claims honour is the most important thing to her... to say i am unsurprised would be an understatement.

Diana, you should probably hand yourself in to the station authorities in question.
You have broken the law. For the honour of all those who call themselves Caldari Officers, regardless of the truth of that statement, you should face the consequences. Failure to do so will tarnish their honour, and your own.

-Tertianus Rethelior

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
#19 - 2016-07-23 17:43:18 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:
Can we get a headcount here? Does anyone other than Diana and her logi support wing, Mika, actually believe that Xadiran and Luna had the approval and time in a 10 hour window to install crowd control devices large enough to tame an entire gymnasium? Anyone? Or do we think maybe it's more likely that, legal or not, they were previously installed station security? I mean, they sound like a reasonably effective security measure, I would want them if I was a station owner.


If they are going to do this in a completely obvious manner, I say they can accomplish this in 10 hours. However, the result is going to be a haphazard mess. The devices will not be hidden. A number of them will be damaged due to them being tossed around. Moreover, anyone will be able to see them running and jumping all over the place like hunting slaver hounds.

That reasoning could work, but did they have 10 hours at all? Or more? This number comes from the source that claims the device was station owner's security, which is incredibly doubtful, and can be proven only by bringing in reference to official documents from a reliable source (CONCORD itself or CONCORD galnet sites). Trust me, all station security measures are listed somewhere. And since the current conversation is turned towards doubting this fact, I think this number of 10 hours shall be doubted as well.

Elmund Egivand wrote:

Also, understanding how station bureaucracy works, unless they already have applied for approval at least 24 hours in advance, I don't see how they can get the permission to install these devices within ten hours of application.

Understanding how station bureaucracy works, one who would give a permission to install such type of equipment in a civil area shall be dismissed from their position, or even arrested for safety negligence.

Elmund Egivand wrote:

Finally, stations, and I mean actual stations, not POSes, are quite spacious. People LIVE and WORK and PURSUE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES in them full time. They cannot be too cramped or else they will start affecting the personnel and residents WHO LIVE IN THEM FULL TIME psychologically. Not to mention hygiene and health concerns. The more cramped a population center is the greater the risk of an outbreak spreading through the population like wildfire. Even the most cramped of stations, for example, any station built by the Minmatar Republic or affiliates, have wide open plazas where the citizens can gather and get some purer recycled air.

Even the most densely populated stations are no worse than the most densely populated planetside city.

Gyms aren't the wide open plazas and places where you'd gather to protest against something, and please don't tell me you would go to the gym to enjoy smelling air there. Though, you have a right even for such kinks.

State the nature of your medical emergency

Karina Ivanovich
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-07-23 17:51:58 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Karina Ivanovich wrote:
While it saddens me to admit it, this footage seems genuine. Diana, what were you thinking?

However, if it is of honor we speak, then hand to hand combat is as pointless as putting blasters on a leviathan class titan.

We are all capsuleers, regardless of affiliation or upbringing. We were reborn to become living weapons. We belong in space. We should fight in space. And I believe no true capsuleer worth anything should have it any other way.

Life is not fair. Honor is as dead as the Jove home world. Fight each other all you wish. But cease this nonsense of pretending that we have honor. We can do, aboard a starship, what an entire elite crew cannot do. And we use this to our advantage, that is not honor, it is intellect and tactics.

Strike Commander Kim, you should know better than to kowtow to others. Show restraint of mouth and defeat your foe on a real battlefield. Your words are a disgrace.

Xadiran, you have repeatedly antagonize Kim in an effort to garner such a response as this. What did you expect. I am glad you brought this to our attention, but you should not have sought it out in the first place.

And Jason, while this matter is serious, and satire is not at this moment welcome, you made me laugh.


Karina,

You really do confuse me sometimes. You claim that capsuleers don't have any honor, yet you take offense to this action. If honor is not a factor, why do you find this action distasteful?


I find the actions of two capsuleers fighting in an "honorbrawl" distasteful. If you have a problem with someone either talk it out, or if negotiations fail prove your point in a starship. I find it distasteful because I find the whole mess annoying. Diana is failing to hold herself the the Caldari standard. And all parties involved just need to talk in private and leave the IGS out of it.

Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.

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