EVE General Discussion

Eternus8lux8lucis is right : whatever you add in EVE, if it's permanent, it will be discovered very fast and everyone will have access to the information quasi instantaneously.
The only way i see to counter that and keep the magic of discovery forever is to add random changing things. A bit like the wormholes, for example.
I'd love to see temporary systems we could only find by probing for example, which would appear randomly in any system, and only last a few days with no way to settle in. Of course, it would need to contain interesting loot or ressources. There would be no sov at all. Then after a few days the system definitively disappears. And another one appears randomly elsewhere, again just for a few days...
Also, in theory, i'd love to increase the size of the cluster too, but only if the number of people logged in increases. That depends mainly on what CCP plan to add to the game : new useless fluff and new clumsy interfaces, or new interesting content ?

I think new areas of space to discover will be the Jove Empire. The Player built Stargates will have to be used there since the Jovian gate system doesn't work. There will be plenty of new tech, resources and game content available.

Just gotta give CCP time to put it all together.



DMC

The logical implication is that they could have done this already.

I'm certain i had a very drunk conversation with a dude in Iceland at fanfest that backs this up

But infact it will start with WH-Space, which will become like completely player built. WH-space are already grouped in constellations like the rest of the Cluster..

From my understand as well, New Eden is a galactic cluster... a very dense one or a satelite cluster, like the Large Magellanic Cloud, that sit just outside of the Milky Way that orbits some 163,000 light away. (much much further than any gate to gate link in Eve) If someone can point me to more detail about this.. with regards the New Eden cluster, i'd be grateful.

If you look at the Milky Way, it only become as dense as Eve when you get quite close to the centre. In the Orion Arm (where earth is) stars systems are MUCH further apart. I guess there is some what of a Lore "limit" to how big New Eden is for this reason.

If i could see any expansion, i'd love to be able to go back to Earth and the Milky Way. I have always thought that perhaps an invasion of New Eden would be a good story line and present awesome PVE and Industrail options.. much like the sleeps

Tech Level 4 :)

I personally agree, I've spent maybe two months out of four years actually living in HS.

That being said, 75% of this game's players live in HS, so CCP pushing people out of it would be a pretty bad business decision. We like to think this is a dangerous PvP-centric game, but really it makes most of its money from HS PvE-ers.

Here's a question for the crowd:

If you did find some new spacethat CCP had seeded and not told anyone about, would you tell people about it?

Do you value e-fame or do you value the opportunity to explore the unknown?

Me <--- your ISK

This was touched on, but needs to be clear: Space isn't defined by stars and planets you see on the map. That is a GATE MAP. There are likely thousands upon thousands of other stars that aren't shown.

Which brings me to my next point:

The universe needs to be player expanded, not CCP expanded.

Players need to build 'super jump' ships capable of making super long journeys across space to stars that players explore. Players need to build the gates and align them (Gates are 1 way cannons after all. That's why it takes two to make a true path.) Players need to do all the effort and spend all the ISK to make it happen.

At this point, the sandbox becomes much larger and is no longer bounded by CCP. Yes, truly sovereign systems begin to exist, gates begin to need to be defended, massive projects and undertakings need to happen. When this exists, EVE will truly be player driven and CCP's job will just be to keep it interesting and somewhat civil.

I support this, goes with their player built ideology

Perhaps areas of new systems that are security rating dynamic depending on player factors such as Faction Warfare?