EVE General Discussion

there has been tons of feedback, but no clear answer, so maybe a conjunction of all of them?

I never got into game programming because there was other work to do. Would have loved to be a game developer but my career took me into other paths. While I cut my teeth with BASIC on the Commodore Pet and Vic-20 (and those were games actually) the "real" stuff would happen later as an adult with military avionics.

After that I got hung up in the late 90s writing computer programs that would go into source code of other programs then seek out, correct and recompile/link any Y2K bugs that it found. I was not going manually look through endless programs, many written in the 1950s. Remember the movie "Office Space"? I had the exact same job as the protagonist but rather than complain about it I cut projected task times down from years to months.

After that things got weird but while I didn't get that job at NASA programming the SRBs like I wanted I did end up on some collaborations and also got into network stuff too. But my path would lead to programming robots that built the electronics of other robots. When you fly in a 787 keep in mind that the program building the electronics for it was originally developed by me around 10 years ago (engineers did the CAD parts that placed components but I had to teach the system how to recognize them). Now I'm involved in crypto stuff.


Guess I'm a failure because I didn't make a game. Boo hoo.

No, you're not a failure because you didn't make a game, congrats on having a job you like. The failure is your inability to understand that your game ideas are horribly bad (and also that none of what you are talking about has anything to do with this discussion). That has nothing to do with your real life work.

We're working on stealing the title of "Cancer that is Killing EVE" away from the gonz.

Perhaps. Some of us were over 30 when this game came out... :)

Teckos misses the point yet again

And projects his own fears on what I just pointed out, but let me reassure you, CCP will not remove ganking and war decs from the game, I for one would not want to see that happen, but they do need to improve the balance a bit and remove some quite stupid exploits, for example the fix on bumping has still not been applied..., consequences need to be consequences and the loot scooping one, is just so meh.

Simple answer. The player base is made up of a majority of sociopaths.

It drives new players away.

Player base gets smaller and smaller.

Only bittervets remain.

Most of them only sub 2 months out of a year as it is.

There is so much truth in this post that I wanted to quote, and maybe try expand on it a little.

First I'm going to speak about something in the real world, so bear with me because it really is relevant. Eve is so much like the natural world, there are next to no rules other than the fittest survives. Everyone knows there are many different species of trees. In stable environments like the UK the best adapted tree will grow most and drown out all the others. There will be very little variety. However in unstable environments, like African scrubland where forest fires regularly destroy most life, there is a massive variety of life. This crosses over to human nature too. In stable economies you get massive chains like Starbucks opening all over the place, very little variety. In poor countries you get many small market stalls selling all sorts of different things, lots of variety again.

Stable conditions lead to certain groups being able to adapt perfectly to those conditions, and to drown out the competition. In a way eve corps are the same. Nullsec originally had many small corps fighting it out, whereas now there are a handful of giants which control all of space (as with HS, LS, and WH). Now whether this is a problem or not is up to you, these corps are the fittest so surely they should survive? But this does not make for exciting gameplay.

I think that eve needs it's own form of wildfire. For many players much of the fun of eve is in trying to adapt to the conditions, putting your wit against others to thrive. Perhaps CCP need to alter nullsec to include roaming drifters (reapers?) which would tear down any and all structures that they find. Obviously this should be rare, and somewhat predictable so players can save some of their belongings, but importantly it should somewhat reset the balance of power between the big guys and smaller guys. The most fun times in eve for most people is in building up your character, your corporation, your alliance.

As it stands right now eve is far too static, which results in stagnation from player groups who already have everything they could want. Burn it down, and players will once again be able to fight to become the biggest fish in the pond.

Chronos Thiesant, good post almost got up up vote from me.

One thing I would love to see is BS and dread rats in hisec, would create some fun, I wish CCP would do it.

Because they have already jumped to that conclusion with one game.