EVE General Discussion

Most people have answered the questions posed already but Ill add my two cents.

Way back in the day you could go up to +10 standing as well as -10. But it was so easy to go into null and rat for a single day or two to get the standings back from -10 that CCP changed it to +5 and made rats count less to standings. Like others alluded to you could get positive standings for factions only so you could be +10 with all factions and have had the +10 standings with concord as well with all the enviable results. Reprocessing in stations was perfect at 6.66 corp standing status, POSs before the changes needed 8.0 standings to anchor in a 0.8 system, 7.0 for 0.7, etc and of course agents needed the required faction standings. These were all tied into concord standings as one and the same but again CCP took those and divided the two. Btw if you have low Concord standings avoid the Concord systems as they will do the same if you are KOS as if you committed a criminal act anywhere.

The sec status gains above 5.0 were still implemented last time I checked and there are two missions you can do ONCE in your eve career, like the COSMOS agents, that will reward you with that above 5.0 standings. Afaik you dont get anything other than the epeen badge of ultimate carebearism though. And if you lose that sec you will never get it back.

CCP has removed sec status and standings and their importance over the years and there is little to no reason to care anymore other than a slightly different playstyle. I like W33bl3's idea quite frankly to make it be a thing again. But the crying from the ganker crowd will put a sock in that fast. I also think that low sec needs to have way less of a standings hit for ships but not pods, but again I think this will fall on deaf ears.

I used to consider my sec status as a commodity that if not used was worthless. So I would go about until I was close to 5.0 and then go gank. You could get in about 6 or so ganks before you got near 0.0 again and then go on with your life. This changed when crimewatch came into effect as now you could sell your killrights. Before that knowing your target wouldnt ever come find you was most beneficial in selecting gank targets. But now they can sell your killright so its not as beneficial a commodity in the same way. But now of course theres so much isk having your own dedicated -10 gank alt is more a thing.... or having 2, 5 or 10 like some people out there do.

I would love to see it BE a commodity much like tags for sec. Have those with high sec extract and sell tags to those with low sec for isk as well. Or at least something. ANYTHING is better than what it is now. I used to matter and Id love to see stuff matter again. But I think like real life its just imaginary.

There is NO beneficial reason to have a higher sec status and it is a shame on CCPs part. But with so many of the player base crying about "REAL" issues that need fixing Im sure something like sec status and standings are likely on the **** pile of the totem pole over there far off to the left, no no way on back there over those mountain ranges, nope dont stop... clear across that ocean... yeaaah riiight about there.
So no I dont believe CCP will change it anytime soon besides making it easier for the masses like the anchoring POSs issue in high sec to cave to the nullbears thatd have to run missions!! OMG!! in high sec?!?! to get THAT much standings to put up a POS like the rest of the player base did so you can put up those compression arrays everywhere. But dedicated toons for ganking or whatever are just as common as dedicated mission runners, incursion runners or anom running. Ultimately people see work and effort and scream. To think in a game billed as deep and long term is too much most often. Hand it to me on a silver platter or let me just shoot them like fish in a barrel is more "fun" but sinks to the least common denominator factor.



Wow... yeah...that went way too long and kinda rantish at the end. LOL So Ill stop there now..... for now. no, no Ill never let you all off that easy.

I personally wish your sec status effected concord response time if you where attacked. Zero being default, the closer to 5 you are the quicker they respond ( based off the security of the system) and the closer you are to -5 (or the magic number that makes you a criminal) the slower they respond. That would be kind of cool.