Jita Park Speakers Corner

Guys!

Like really, is this the EVE that we love?

Look, over the years you were changing it, clearly in a "more fun" direction or that's what you thought.
Let's look on the most important changes:

- jump bridge network nerf
- capital jump range nerf and introduction of jump fatigue
- carrier buff, then the recent nerf again

Oh yeah, it's all to bring PvP to the gates now yes?

Well where's the PvP on the gates I ask you? You know what's on the gates? Damn instawarp ceptors, bubble immune cloaky t3s and other cloaky hauler stuff - that's all you've achieved. You made people use ceptors to travel, since you even gave them immunity to bubbles - whose great idea was that anyway?!
Now people have to go 10-20 jumps to get anywhere where they could get in one or two using old bridge system for example, yeah, you made the game so much better, clearly! Just the online numbers say you didn't for some reason, guess why?!!

And then you introduced t3 destros, accidentally killing the whole advanced frigate meta in the process cuz why fly Jag if you can fly svipul. You can even fit them (t3d) to instalock ceptors very easy.

You made life of capital pilots even more miserable. I'm not talking about special toons that just sit there in a mom. You ever thought about the consequences for the rest of us?

ONLINE NUMBERS DROP EVERY YEAR, what more proof you want? EVE without those changes had 50k+ online on any day of the week. Now it's half of that on weekends OMG, weekends, Karl!

On the other hand Fozzie sov is okay. Jump fatigue alone is okay, but goddam jump range nerf is crazy stupid. What for? To make people make more cyno alts and waste more ozone?!!! WHAT FOR if you already deny long trips with the fatigue mechanic?!!!!!!! OMG it's so frustrating.

Before all those changes we had more people in nullsec, more carebears, more pvp, we had drops on bridges, sabres and bombers camping em - it was fun! Drops and counter drops, and we had gate pvp TOO, don't you remember? Not like you have lots of it now lol. Nullsec was more alive, lowsec was alive, damn there were just that many more people in the game, twice more. Now you have 20k online and half of that are second window, don't you understand? You're killing the game.
Especially the jump range nerf. It's super-duper useless and atrocious. It's time to revert it. Leave the fatigue.

Duh, probably it'll all fall on deaf ears as so many threads before this one, go on, continue killing your game.
Troll me all you want, I wanted to speak out cause I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore.

Yeah make a good point, even if you post on a forum alt
employement history: University of Caille 2011.01.27 18:40 to this day

Yeah. Right on brother ! So much better when we could set up a lazy gate camp with bubbles and instablapping ships that would zap anyone stupid enough to think they could travel out of highsec into the wider universe. Course nothing much would often happen but we could down a few beers , talk s*** in fleet and watch Netflix while waiting. Bring back muh old EVE !

The Phoebe travel changes have been phenomenally effective at delivering their intended result. The results were evident withing a few days of their being announced, never mind introduced.

I'm sorry you don't like facts, but they they are.

Be sure to contract me all your stuff before you quit.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

Seriously, this looks to me like the cry of a hurt child. "It's not fair. I want my toys back." As others have said, why should certain exploits be permitted? Cynos have the potential to completely unbalance the game and i think that what CCP has done is a benefit to most players.

Personally I stick to hi/lo sec as I'm not into fleets and megacorps so I'd be roadkill in null but even I can see that having someone able to teleport from a distant system and blast the living daylights out of you could really spoil your day and it seems to be unfair that doing this was apparently so easy to do.

I think CCP have taken Mr. Spock's advice and seen that "The needs of the many ...." has been applied.

I'm not taking a stance either way because [citation needed]. Grab some graphs. Grab some ships-killed-by-region graphs. Grab some jumps-by-region graphs. Grab some top-killers graphs. If you're making a claim of facts, be sure to include facts. On the other hand, if you're making a point of what is and is not fun, include stories. One is not better than the other but be clear about what you are presenting. All I'm seeing is "things are different now." Astute observation, sir.

Edit: and I just realized how necro this thread is. Kinda forget that the desolate sections of the forums might not see as many posts as the normal sections. :P

Nobody will like me for saying this, but Cynos have been horrible for eve. They need to go or be seriously reworked, but that is going to meet a hell of a lot of inertia.