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Cutting The Head Off Of The Snake - & Other Myths So Prevalent In Our Society

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-20 14:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
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This post is for people who have actually done this. People who have actually seen things, done things and who do more then just sit in front of their computer all day long, thinking that wiki will teach them the ways of the world.




Cut The Head Off Of A Snake & The Body Dies

I have heard this my entire life, not to mention it is quoted by MMO warriors along with Sun Tzu into mind numbing tedium. I also remembered the first day that I tried this. It was a big snake that had been living in my yard for sometime. I finally got sick of it standing up like a cobra and taking pop shots at me, and so I gave it it's due. After some want-to-be wild man tricks with a metal pole to subdue it, I removed its head with a shovel.



Outcome:

I was pretty young at the time, so I looked down in horror as both the head and body remained alive. Now before you say that it was nerves, you can find stuff like this on Youtube Not only did the head continue to snap at me, but the body continued to curl around objects for quite sometime as if the head was still attached.


I said WTF.
And then it really started to get me thinking.



The Notion

If such a basic concept of "cut the head off the snake and...." was made up, it made me wonder what else in life was, well... equally as imaginary. I would like to dedicate this thread to myths that everyone has always told you that were true, and you believed them, until you saw it for yourself.




Go!

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-12-20 14:12:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Myth 2. Childbirth is beautiful


This is a big one that also circulates in our society. I've seen it... and well... not so pretty. However there is no true (as in legitimate in a group of polite people, or spoken openly on TV) counter argument to this urban myth. If you say that childbirth is pretty ugly, you get responses like "typical guy" or "troll". Perhaps to some this process can appear beautiful, but to the vast portion of the population watching a bluish, mucus and blood covered human being pooped out of another one, is not very appealing.

Thus.. it is not beautiful exclusively as we are told. To most people it is in fact pretty disgusting.

This is also an urban myth propagated by our society.




Myth 3. Eat Your Grains


In the past 50 years Diabetes and heart disease has skyrocketed in the united states to epidemic proportions. Now before you say "lol fat Americans" the reason for this rise can be traced back to some idiot who told us all that "fat is bad" and "carbs are good" The result of this assertion compelled people to put aside their fatty cholesterol ridden meats and pick up their diabetic, blood glucose spiking breads and pastas.


Every modern study now reveals that it is spikes in blood sugar and the accompanied rise in Insulin that causes everything from high cholesterol to stroke and thyroid disease. "Eat your grains" was one of the biggest myths ever propagated in my country, and now we spend more on healthcare then any other nation in the world.





Myth 4. Global Warming


About two months ago I saw something scroll across the bottom of the morning news. It said "Scientists now agree that global warming is real" It made me laugh. I knew that global warming was real because I have lived in Florida for almost 30 years... I remember when we had winters and freezes. We don't anymore.

There was always ample evidence for Global Warming, it is just that certain people were exaggerating scientific uncertainties in order to keep the question "open" as long as possible. That is until Greenland Started Completely Melting




P.S.

To give you an idea of how bad this issue was... the only satellite NASA ever built that was never sent up was one intended to prove Global warming existed. The satellite ended up being called the "Al Gore satellite" and it was thrown into a crate a week before launch where it still sits to this day.

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SpaceSquirrels
#3 - 2011-12-20 14:40:53 UTC
Isn't cutting the head off a snake not a myth but a figure of speech? Wasn't meant to be literal.

Number 2 I agree with... It's gross.... There's poop involved.

3. Not sure where you heard number 3... I've only ever heard eat your veggies.

4. Are you saying it is a myth...thus global warming is fictions.... or it isn't? Either way I dont see why people are so surprised by climates changing. Study a bit of geology and you'll come to find the planet has gone through dozens of "major" (glaciation) planet altering climate changes. And lord only knows how many minor ones.

Hell the deserts we have that are around 30N and 30S of the equator are partly from the last ice age.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-12-20 14:47:39 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Isn't cutting the head off a snake not a myth but a figure of speech? Wasn't meant to be literal.



A more accurate figure of speech might then have been "Cut the head off of a snake, but watch out... even afterward it can poison you if you are not careful."

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SpaceSquirrels
#5 - 2011-12-20 14:51:53 UTC
lol That wouldn't be a figure of speech...Rather a statement.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-12-20 14:55:52 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
lol That wouldn't be a figure of speech...Rather a statement.


You may be to stupid for this thread. Straight

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-12-20 15:06:21 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Isn't cutting the head off a snake not a myth but a figure of speech? Wasn't meant to be literal.



A more accurate figure of speech might then have been "Cut the head off of a snake, but watch out... even afterward it can poison you if you are not careful."


In the spirit of nitpicking, the saying seems quite accurate to me even considering your personal experience. The point, as far as I can tell, was always to simply say the snake cannot continue to survive without it's head or maybe more to the point, it's more effective to simply attack the decision making/leadership part of an organisation than keep slashing at it's "tail". So unless you want to claim that after having it's head removed the snake shrugged and went on to have a long and happy life, I'm not seeing the issue with the saying.
SpaceSquirrels
#8 - 2011-12-20 15:38:58 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
lol That wouldn't be a figure of speech...Rather a statement.


You may be to stupid for this thread. Straight



You maybe too dumb to figure out that i'm not serious...
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2011-12-20 17:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I cut the head off a saltwater eel once and it took 6 hours for the head to die.

The body tasted great though.


And it's a myth that childbirth is some kind of wonderful experience. There's a reason why the ancients thought the mechanics of birth was some kind of punishment from God.

Add to that, that in America, every "new mother", so afraid of everything, takes every little pill the doctor prescribes, and by the time she's ready to give birth, she's gained 80 lbs to birth and 8 lb baby and she'll never get rid of that other 72 lbs. We call that "hot shotting" with vaccines and once that autoimmune response hits and triggers that lifelong obesity, it's over. You married her mother at that point. Most of the damage of the autoimmune response is called "complications of the pregnancy" .

My mother likes watching those "we're going to have a baby " documentaries on TV and every time I walked through the room when it was on, there was a baby spurting out of some big bloody mess between a big fat pair of legs. This may have been a contributing factor to me not becoming a stay-at-home son.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#10 - 2011-12-20 18:25:58 UTC
oddly enough I do find the act of BIRTH amazing, what I can't stand is the $%@%@%# SMELL.

I don't mind seeing a baby pop out from its hidey hole all greased up and like a big weird mass of wrinkled flesh, I find that ... interesting. But what I hated during my college practices at the hospital was the 2%@31245235@@ smell of birth. Not to mention the placenta in LatAm is a source of wonder and some people grab it, toss it around and sometimes even eat it and seeing THAT thing come out of a woman pulled by a string of flesh and then promptly taken care or stuffed in a bag for who knows what strange rites of fortune was odd, specially the SMELL.

Since we were on psychology school we were forced to watch as many births as possible to understand where we come from and then the development of a normal human being, but to this day all I remember is the @$%@%@% smell.

So everytime I read about Shub-Niggurath I know how the Goddess SMELLS, it smells like a perpetual childbirth of gore, flesh, blood, placenta and bodily fluids in an everlasting orgy of $#^#$#^&^#$@$# SMELLS that eventually get you so intoxicated you lose yourself in wild abandon and begin the dance with the Chosen and Dark Young! yeah ...

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Atticus Fynch
#11 - 2011-12-20 18:36:51 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
Not to mention the placenta in LatAm is a source of wonder and some people grab it, toss it around and sometimes even eat it and seeing THAT thing come out of a woman pulled by a string of flesh and then promptly taken care or stuffed in a bag for who knows what strange rites of fortune was odd, specially the SMELL.



EAT IT!?!?Shocked

OMG!, WHAT SICK **** WOULD DO SUCH A THING?

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Vicker Lahn'se
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-12-20 18:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Vicker Lahn'se
1) The bit about a snake is an expression, not a myth. It's not an advisory statement about how to best deal with snakes. Next you're going to tell me that you expect to be killing two birds every time you throw a stone at a bird.

2) Whether or not something is beautiful does not constitute a myth. It's simply a matter of opinion. You may as well claim that the artistic value someone's painting is a myth.

3) Again, I'm not sure I would classify dietary advise as a "myth". The FDA has recently redrawn then concept to put a little more emphasis on some groups and less on others, but if you follow the old food pyramid to the letter you will probably do okay.

4) Debating about whether or not global warming is a "myth" is to give in to language that is used by political organizations to try to discredit their opposition.


Let me give you an example of an actual myth. The Coriolis effect is insignificant on the scale of your bathroom sink and toilet. Water does not swirl the opposite direction down the drain due to being on the other side of the equator. The direction of flow is determined by the jets that send water into your toilet bowl or currents that were in the water from you splashing about.

What makes it a myth? It makes factual claims that can be proven false when tested. Your snake bit is not a myth because it makes no factual claim. The childbirth thing isn't a myth because one's opinion of beauty cannot be tested. The food pyramid bit isn't a "true or false" situation, but rather an older dietary concept that has been revised to be slightly more accurate. Global warming isn't a myth because it has yet to be proven false.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#13 - 2011-12-20 18:58:57 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Did the snake's body die earlier than it would had the head remained attached? Yes? Then myth confirmed, baby. No one promised it would be an instant death.

Beauty is subjective, so saying it's a myth that something is beautiful is just silly.

I've never once been told "eat your grains".

I don't think there's been any significant debate on the reality of global warming in decades. There are two questions about it now: Is it at least partly due to human activities, and can it be stopped?

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

SpaceSquirrels
#14 - 2011-12-20 19:16:24 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
Not to mention the placenta in LatAm is a source of wonder and some people grab it, toss it around and sometimes even eat it and seeing THAT thing come out of a woman pulled by a string of flesh and then promptly taken care or stuffed in a bag for who knows what strange rites of fortune was odd, specially the SMELL.



EAT IT!?!?Shocked

OMG!, WHAT SICK **** WOULD DO SUCH A THING?


Asian cultures... I think Filipino? I think some celebrities got into a fad of burying it their yards with a tree or a shrub or something weird like that.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#15 - 2011-12-20 20:18:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Brujo Loco
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
Not to mention the placenta in LatAm is a source of wonder and some people grab it, toss it around and sometimes even eat it and seeing THAT thing come out of a woman pulled by a string of flesh and then promptly taken care or stuffed in a bag for who knows what strange rites of fortune was odd, specially the SMELL.



EAT IT!?!?Shocked

OMG!, WHAT SICK **** WOULD DO SUCH A THING?


Asian cultures... I think Filipino? I think some celebrities got into a fad of burying it their yards with a tree or a shrub or something weird like that.


In Latin America the placenta is special. If you trip on one or on the amniotic liquid when a woman is about to give birth it brings you much luck, you have to save it for eating or for special curing to create a Mystic shield of sorts that will protect the newborn or whoever wants "special protection". Some people do that and believe in it, as much as they can believe in any kind of major religious beliefs. In a pragmatic sense of the world it's as real as any other sacrament of many other more mainstream religions, so it boils down to matters of faith. So let's not go there Big smile

It's also used by the truckload by certain "pharma" corps for extraction and use in several skin treatments and hair therapies, also used by the select few that know how to do the same process but in a homemade way. Here is common for women to buy Ampules filled with goat placenta for example, human ones are "better", or so they say.

Oh yes, the placenta has a lot of uses my friend. Fact is any part of the body can be associated with a specific set of attributes you want to enhance or decay. Since this is the Caribbean Mayombe and Candomble is strong here, and they use all bodily fluids (ALL) for very specific rituals, I confess that as a very curious person I have been present in very interesting rituals here involving all manners of acts. Things I will never place in my resume but actually can earn me a "degree" in Witchcraft for that matter haha, I just happen to find all the anthropological aspects of them entertaining and inspiring. Belief is so strong.

Anyone here in LatAm can dub himself a practitioner of the dark arts for example and at most you will get a raised eyebrow and serious expression and slow backing up, sometimes people flood you with questions about their future, also bear in mind several key leaders here openly use witchcraft to strengthen their rules. Chavez is one for example, my "dear" president is known to have opened the tomb of Simon Bolivar to bathe in its glory and it is an open secret that he has a lot of Cuban Santeros backing him up.

Here in Panama, with Noriega returning, lots of tales during the Just Cause invasion are surfacing (today is the anniversary) regarding Noriega's use of Santeria and the bloody altars he had in his house discovered by American troops. Here anyone can carve a niche for himself if you truly believe in what you doing.

I would never leave this beautiful part of the world, and totally understand the foreigners that never want to leave either.

But back on topic yes, people EAT the placenta and use it for a lot for witchcraft rituals. When I worked in the hospital you would be amazed at the amount of weird stuff I saw going on, which led to my interest in such things as Mental Health worker, if you go plain out saying all they believe is crap or imaginary stuff you lose empathy with your patients. I find that whole world fascinating and since its so common it works in a sense and its real since a lot of people believe it is, it's part of the culture, my culture, and am very proud of it.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#16 - 2011-12-20 21:04:56 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
Not to mention the placenta in LatAm is a source of wonder and some people grab it, toss it around and sometimes even eat it and seeing THAT thing come out of a woman pulled by a string of flesh and then promptly taken care or stuffed in a bag for who knows what strange rites of fortune was odd, specially the SMELL.



EAT IT!?!?Shocked

OMG!, WHAT SICK **** WOULD DO SUCH A THING?


Asian cultures... I think Filipino? I think some celebrities got into a fad of burying it their yards with a tree or a shrub or something weird like that.


In Latin America the placenta is special. If you trip on one or on the amniotic liquid when a woman is about to give birth it brings you much luck, you have to save it for eating or for special curing to create a Mystic shield of sorts that will protect the newborn or whoever wants "special protection". Some people do that and believe in it, as much as they can believe in any kind of major religious beliefs. In a pragmatic sense of the world it's as real as any other sacrament of many other more mainstream religions, so it boils down to matters of faith. So let's not go there Big smile

It's also used by the truckload by certain "pharma" corps for extraction and use in several skin treatments and hair therapies, also used by the select few that know how to do the same process but in a homemade way. Here is common for women to buy Ampules filled with goat placenta for example, human ones are "better", or so they say.

Oh yes, the placenta has a lot of uses my friend. Fact is any part of the body can be associated with a specific set of attributes you want to enhance or decay. Since this is the Caribbean Mayombe and Candomble is strong here, and they use all bodily fluids (ALL) for very specific rituals, I confess that as a very curious person I have been present in very interesting rituals here involving all manners of acts. Things I will never place in my resume but actually can earn me a "degree" in Witchcraft for that matter haha, I just happen to find all the anthropological aspects of them entertaining and inspiring. Belief is so strong.

Anyone here in LatAm can dub himself a practitioner of the dark arts for example and at most you will get a raised eyebrow and serious expression and slow backing up, sometimes people flood you with questions about their future, also bear in mind several key leaders here openly use witchcraft to strengthen their rules. Chavez is one for example, my "dear" president is known to have opened the tomb of Simon Bolivar to bathe in its glory and it is an open secret that he has a lot of Cuban Santeros backing him up.

Here in Panama, with Noriega returning, lots of tales during the Just Cause invasion are surfacing (today is the anniversary) regarding Noriega's use of Santeria and the bloody altars he had in his house discovered by American troops. Here anyone can carve a niche for himself if you truly believe in what you doing.

I would never leave this beautiful part of the world, and totally understand the foreigners that never want to leave either.

But back on topic yes, people EAT the placenta and use it for a lot for witchcraft rituals. When I worked in the hospital you would be amazed at the amount of weird stuff I saw going on, which led to my interest in such things as Mental Health worker, if you go plain out saying all they believe is crap or imaginary stuff you lose empathy with your patients. I find that whole world fascinating and since its so common it works in a sense and its real since a lot of people believe it is, it's part of the culture, my culture, and am very proud of it.




OMG.

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Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#17 - 2011-12-20 21:32:14 UTC
People eating placentas is new? Disgusting yes, but I find organ meats disgusting and the consumption of insects disgusting. Plenty of people eat chocolate covered insects and consume tongue, hearts, and brains.


As for Global Warming, the only people who think its a myth are the politicians who are bathing in oil and coal money, and their easily confused constituents. When the goddamn Saudi Royal Family is investing billions into alternative energy sources, it might just be because they see the writing on the wall. First they sold us oil, soon they'll sell us the sun.

Never heard of "eat your grains." Also, carbs/fats/proteins have little to do with weight loss or gain except for the fact that they all contain calories. Protein is also used in the building of muscle but whatever, whether you're eating carbs or fats if you eat too many of them for a long period of time you will become heavier (until your metabolism increases to counteract the increased consumption of food).
Alara IonStorm
#18 - 2011-12-20 21:58:36 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Myth 2. Childbirth is beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMcIUmfTZS4
Atticus Fynch
#19 - 2011-12-20 22:27:43 UTC
Aside form childbirth, has anyone considered how disgusting the sex act is?

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-12-20 22:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Aside form childbirth, has anyone considered how disgusting the sex act is?


The sex drive in young MMO playing males (who never EVER get laid and watch polished porn women all day long) is so strong, that no objective answer to that question can be submitted. Blink


Moving on lol

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