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Apologies for excessive posting in this thread, but I have some more specific feedback on particular challenges in the current event.

I have categorized the challenges somewhat (not mentioning "average" challenges I encountered).

A) pleasant surprise - this is actually no challenge since you do not need to change any behaviour but still get extra reward points. A stroke of luck is good for the morale, so some of these might be nice in an event, but don't exaggerate.

examples:
kill 1/10/200 Serpentis pirates - especially the last is incredibly good, too good I'd say. It basically gives 2000 free extra reward points

B) slot blockers - I would never try to complete these, they are just blocking slots

examples:
*kill 10 Drifters - the Drifters have a fearsome reputation of "one-shot everthing - no loot". That scared me of even trying. Plus it's for the same reason one of the few aspects in EVE I never tried.
*complete an incursion - the description is unclear. Does it mean "kill the MOM"? Or just "do one incursion site"? The investment to do this is WAY to high, plus you cannot ensure success alone. Also since challenges are personal, you cannot do this as a team. It is completely unlikely that someone tries to get into an incursion community because of this challenge. It would just be a boon for an incursion runner.
*complete X DED sites - while exploration is fun, DED sites take time to complete, but even worse they are rare and with a bit of bad luck you can search for hours without finding one. Also it's easy to confuse them with unrated complexes. I think it would be fine to have a challenge "scan & warp to X Cosmic Signatures" which can be completed way more reliably.
*kill 50 Drifter battleships in 24 hours - erm... how about NO?
*small challenges: I usually try to complete them to free the slot, but they are not interesting as the reward is small and they make you leave the efficient path to reward points. Mine 50k Veldspar, kill one guard...
*mine 100k Plagioclase - that would have taken me like 2 hours to complete!


C) fun challenges - we need more of this

examples:
*kill a Drifter in a frigate - despite what I said above, I was tempted to try this one. Limited investment, the prospect to complete it quickly, substantiable reward and getting to know a new aspect of EVE.
*kill 200 Angel pirates in 24h - this is a subtle one and COMPLETELY different from "kill 200 Serpentis". Just because there are no Angels in Shipyards. I always felt it HAD to be easy points, but then I got into wondering: where do I find large numbers of preferrably small Angel rats? Belts? Missions? Epic mission arcs? Event sites? This challenge proved to be much fun and in the end worth the 2000 points - but it was not easy.
*kill 5 Sleepers - also a nice one. A bit variety, a bunch of points and the prospect to get them faster than through grind if you do it correctly.

Why not just go with something similar to the already familiar "remove one of these every X hours" system from missions? Leave the default if it's appropriate for future events (personally I like always having something I can definitely do) it's just when things I have no ability or interest in doing show up that I wish I could cycle a mission.

There are a couple of ways this could be done, such as selecting from a "hand" of mission cards every time one pops, but the simplest to implement would probably just be a "remove this mission" button with a cooldown. At least then if you end up with something you can't do or don't want you're not stuck with it for days on end.

Thats wednsday already, any news ?

Anyone got a fancy battlecruiser yet?

Yes, got a Shadow Serpentis Wing Leader in a shipyard site today. The drop was about 93 mil worth of faction modules, ammo and, tags.

Any noticeable increase in difficulty or damage output of the site? Also were you in High or Low/Null when this happened?

I was in High sec space.

As Tyrrax said, the commander BC made little difference in the difficulty of the site. It is just one additional BC after all, even if it has slightly better stats than the normal BCs. Frankly, the Angel Cartel frigate or cruiser groups that occasionally appear are a larger threat in comparison.

Still, it was a nice surprise. I like that it provides something to fight over in the site even if it is a rarity.

If it was every time then the price for the modules and loot it drops would soon crash and the loot would no longer be worth fighting over.

Even with the limited spawns I don't see someone risking their Faction or T2 Cruiser or Battleship over 100mil in loot, in High Sec, when the ship is worth 2-3 times that. More likely you'd see people ninja-looting in Frigates or stealing loot specifically to get shot at and trigger the same old aggression timer tricks people have been pulling for years.

it came on wednesday

Because roaming from system to repeat the same thing over and over in each is just such interesting exciting engaging game play.

What a shame nothing but the shipyard is worth doing and so is not only repeatable but must be repeated many times.
I wonder why Angel Cartel Assembly Points (or any of the other missions) couldn't have drops similar to the Shipyard. Might this not be a balanced thing and encourage players to do something a little different

Turning an "event" into a grind fest repeating the same site over and over is just really poor design. I thought with all the whohah CCP generated for this event it would somehow be better (or at least rewarding and interesting), seems you learnt nothing from the good events you've put on here and there.

Also, for highsec at least, you really need to stop the legal theft of loot and free rewards - Simply shite that some random just sits and watches till the last rat dies and is faster than you at "right click open" to steal the loot AND get "reward points" for someone else's efforts.


Sadly there is more bad Ginding shite with this event than there is well balanced, thought out, interesting game play.