EVE General Discussion

At the enemy of course! Ramming Speed!

'What, like a blue doughnut? Get it off!'

aaand I'm dead.

I wish.
Love his book.
Fun to break out whenever I get religious solicitors at my door.
Plus, I like the sounds it makes when I feed it stuff.

Sadly though, and I'm not stamping my feet here or anything, I'm going to likely let my subs expire. After explaining what had happened with the watchlist changes and how it affected mercenary life to my roommate he brought up a hard question to me....
That being 'So, why are you still playing this game?'
Words came out of my mouth. Aside from the people who I associate with, argue with, and shoot at... I had no good answer.
Well, none that didn't sound false to myself at least.
I'm out of work.
I adapt to an extent, but it's hard to justify a radical change in playstyle just to hopefully find some kind of enjoyment out of the game.
If I have to try that hard, well, there's something amiss.
If the only viable answers are 'go to low sec' or 'go to null sec' then there's an issue.
It's not that I'm adverse to these ideas either, I've been, and will likely return to them before my sub expires.
The problem lies in having to move the goalposts in order to continue to enjoy the game.
That kind of bugs me.
That's not adaptation so much as forced relocation... or I could just sit on a trade hub and become a bottom feeder if I want to have targets, and reinforce the notion that mercs are bottom feeders only in search of 'easy kills'.
*shrug*

I wish that even narrowed it down... But honestly most major merc groups in high sec have been flying with neutral RR since before I started playing.

As with many things, it has certainly gotten *worse* over the years...but it isn't really new...

Not sure how one changes it without fundamentally changing the nature of EVE.


Part of the reason CCP did the crimewatch changes was to make neutral logi vulnerable to *everyone* - in an effort to make it more dangerous to use it - however, since the crimewatch changes everybody is terrified of touching a suspect because they are afraid it is a trap - so all it has really done is allowed the big groups to kill the enemy logi off quicker to remove even that method of countering them...

Neutral remote repping has been a thing for a long, long time.

And the idea of war decs driving people away. Please explain the period of 2005-2010 in terms of players logged in? Back when deccing a corp cost 5 million ISK and deccing an alliance cost 50 million ISK.

Edit:

BTW, those of you whining about war decs, especially blanket war decs now, I love the irony. People whined and whined...and CCP changed things like you asked. Made war decs more expensive and what happened it gave rise to large war dec corps. Watchlist went away, more blanket war decs.

Lesson you guys should have learned....careful what you wish for you might just get it good and hard and with no lube.

...but are it the same people whining?

Some mechanics needed adjusting, because it's the logical thing to do and has been a long time coming yet not at the top of the list at the time. As with any change worth mentioning, it doesn't benefit everyone.

Just because people complain doesn't mean they're in the right, or that they feel the implemented modification backfired-- it might simply mean that forumwarrior A is happy now but B feels slighted now and has been posting ever since. Lately, for example, I haven't seen any bearposts. Have you? I have seen at least 10 complete gankerwhine threads and maybe one or two oddball bears asking for more EHP on his hulk.

Making wardecs supercheap again would only result in more blanket decs, from both the established values as well as newcomers to the scene. I don't think I've ever heard anyone ask for cheaper decs. Sure, people adapt within their chosen playstyle but that doesn't mean the original reason behind the change is any less valid now than it was back then.

Ain't nothing wrong with blanket wardeccing; I mean .... if you're in highsec and you don't know how to avoid them by now, you probably deserve to be schooled. I though we were looking for a way to allow other playstyles (eg hunting) to persist, nobody said anything about getting rid of blanket decs. Blanket decs are good, as evidenced by how many people still get caught (for some unfathomable reason).

One of the things about spontaneous order...you often have to deal with the law of unintended consequences. Many of the whiners were sure it would solve the problem. Then it didn't....it instead produced an even more unpalatable outcome.

And yeah, I find it totally ****ing hilarious.

The only way this ridiculous suggestion could work is if it is accompanied by:

- remove all ice and asteroid belts from highsec
- remove all missions and mission agents from highsec
- remove all combat signatures and anomolies from highsec.

ie. if you want great safety, you pay for it with less reward.

Since that would reduce highsec to essentially - hauling, market trading and new player starting - then shrink highsec so that the players that now need to go to low and null to achieve what they want, have additional systems to do it in.