EVE General Discussion

Aaron, if you wanted to say something to me then you should have done it by mail. I explained the bumper issue to you, its poor gameplay. Lots of these folks, lol I could not give a rats ass what they think about me, in fact the only person that matters to me is myself, you should have realised that by now Aaron. That s why pulling the leg of some of them to do their attack posts was so amusing, because I realish them knowing I am a complete loser. I hope you work out what I mean by that...

I'm too tired to work out what you mean, why don't you just tell me. Why would I want to mail you anyway, you never agree or understand anything I say. Drac, why not just have a normal convo without pulling their legs? Why not try harder to think through their responses and see the logic in what they say?

No one has claimed it was, so no real issue then.

nah, just wait till remie wakes up.

Aaron,

You are desperate to get in an argument or conflict with me aren't you, well you managed to get this reply, yes I learnt some things from you, like hit and run stuff and the like small gang combat and it was fun, and you learnt from me I also learnt that you had limits as an FC, it was pretty evident right from the start. But you will not see a single loss of any industrial or freighter or mining ship in hisec on any of my characters and yet you flew an untanked T1 indy in hisec with a cynabal and its fittings in it and got ganked and you are pretending that you taught me. As I keep pointing out to the trolls here, actions speak louder than words, you should think about it.

Shae,

Except that you did, it is there above in black and white.


I set out to get a missing piece of what went on and did so thanks to Ralph, it coincided with when I was not playing Eve. Now it is time for me to concentrate on playing rather then playing the forums, apart from schooling Teckos on a certain thread, which he trolls like a large hairy troll with acne.

Because Aaron got me irritated enough to respond I might as well give my thoughts, the key thing I got from this is confirmation on why they did blanket war decs, and it was telling that it came from Ralph and the CEO of DWA's who I have a great deal of respect for. From the time I joined the game I have kept a close eye on the hisec war dec entities, it helped having a friend who has since left the game who was very high up in the Orphanage and was also in Project Nemesis who explained to me in great detail how they operated , and by the way this player had utter contempt for Aaron.

And let me make it clear, there is nothing wrong with ganking, war decs are also fine, what is the issue is what hisec has become and who operates in hisec, this is not due to carebears as they were always there and always doing this in Eve. The blanket war decs are primarily because they wanted to get bigger for obvious reasons. So its really a race to keep their player occupied and active, but ultimately its destructive on ability because it is lazy, the second reason is environment, because hisec entities just are not interested and can hide or avoid made easier with the watch list removal. But the most important thing is that war dec entities just make a huge amount of ISK out of the 0.0 alliances less careful players and their logistics. And in spite of the noise made by certain 0.0 players (not all) offering contempt filled advice to hisec players on how to deal with hisec war decs, they fail to do it themselves due to the same reasons as hisec players.

Initially I was looking to see if there was any fight in hisec players, but for them there is no real reason to do so, the only people who did fight are the ones who were new and as most of them now bypass hisec your prey has become rather thin on the ground in terms of hisec players and what there is refuse to play your game which is the best way for them.

I still believe that the OS for watch list intel per constellation and giving better yield or bonuses for indy structures that cannot be pulled down within the 24 hour war dec period could create a slightly different environment, but the majority of people will not bother, they will accept the base amount and go to ground like they do now, but could a nucleas form from people who have a bit more about them. I really don't know, but one thing is certain I won't be doing it, please step forward Aaron you have found your niche in this game.

So every time one of you loudly proclaim its the carebears fault and go off on religious like mantras about this is a PvP game I snigger because real carebears are now very thin on the ground in hisec and most of you don't even realise it...

Time to go try WH living... o7


PS and off topic. Aaron, will you ever realise that forums are not going to work in developing things, you have to do the footwork by getting people the hard way by building up a corp. Stain is an issue because the logistics are too difficult for new players and even old players, I find it a bit of a pain once I could no longer use a carrier and had one kick out station for a JF, the WH's were not good enough for my needs. The logistics issue of Stain is the problem for you which is why you have attracted no one, you might get a few people who have tried PH for example and want a more individualistic 0.0 experience, I hope you do, but only a few. By the way I avoided your Hub Zero thread as a certain amount of respect for your own attempt, and it was telling that you decided to follow me around when your thread died, and a bit sad. o7

EDIT: Good god you are stupid Aaron, I did not sit in 6Y for you, I did it so the other players did not get fed up and as soon as you opened your mouth they upped their game and those players got fed up and melted away or moved to another area in Stain. You will keep failing because it is always just about you and your ego. A 2003 player who makes noob errors Aaron which is why you had an un-tanked T1 hauler ganked while carrying a Cynabel and its fit. I learnt what I could from you and then tried to help you, but you are incapable of learning anything.

Nah, maybe you should just try to reread it a bit slower.

I stand by what I wrote before. The increase in blanket wardecs was a direct response to the watchlist changes.

That is not a claim that you think it is.

Maybe this wording of the same thing will make it easier for you to comprehend:

The increase in blanket wardecs following the watchlist changes was a direct response to those changes.

Hopefully that helps.

Actually it helped you.

Because you adjusted your sentence to the reality, it is there in black and white.

Well what you said at the end is different to what you said before, you became specific in terms of timing which meant that the sentence is now correct. Simple good use of English, the less precise you are the more that people could misinterpret, and often people leave things vague to play with interpretation. Same for laws and contracts etc. I find it rather amusing being told I have a low IQ when the fault is in your wording which was too wide in scope and shows at best laziness or at worst deliberate intent to misrepresent.

It was always clear for me, the only thing I missed was that some war dec entities made an effort to move away from blanket war decs which means that for some of them the watch list removal forced them to do blanket war decs, I was trying to work out why the felt as upset and that nailed it. It is also because it is a point of contention with CCP on mechanic changes which directly equates to their ability to get content and a green killboard. The watch list removal is to hisec gangs what the NPC kills and people in systems are to roaming gangs in null, easy vectoring in on targets...

In any case talking to people like you is an exercise in futility, because you do understand, you just have reasons to postulate as you do.

Here is what Shae wrote:



Dracvlad quoted it here.

Shae did not write or imply that blanket war decs were caused by the removal of the watchlist. Such claims are simply untrue. Saying that Shae made this claim is nothing short of a lie.