Intergalactic Summit

I picked up this gem from the other discussion board.

I uh... I appreciate CONCORD making a move on the matter, but... When I was calling for attention to Drifter crisis...

No, that's not right.

Everything about that is actually not right, is this some sort of a ritual sacrifice? Have they thought about the potential death toll from this kind of engagement without proper tactics we employ? This doesn't make sense!

On another hand, we can see this as them trusting capsuleers to *figure it out*.

They are criminal organisation. Those that align themselves with them should be considered associates of this organised crime syndicate.

Here at the FLMPP we would love , we would love it, to have the severed head of Odo Korachi hanging up on the office wall of our HQ, he is scum. Anyone who can bring us the head of Odo korachi will be well rewarded.

Odo Korachi is sociopath , he is scum, no treatment for that.

When the chance arises, we the people are going to have to rise up , take matters into our own hands, bring him to justice.

I should point out that the Amarr Empire remains in a declared war against the Drifters. Unlike the CEMWPA, there are no restrictions on the rules of engagement. Properly trained, equipped, and led capsuleers can accomplish this task with minimal to no losses.
Everyone involved in ARC command channels knows my drive to minimize losses in our engagements, however that does not mean I am unwilling to expend lives in pursuit of our ultimate victory.

Honestly, we're experts at killing. There's nothing magical about what you do, Mr Victorian, capsuleers will work out a way to make killing Drifters economically viable, just as we've worked out a way to make money from killing almost everything and everyone else.

The smart capsuleers will certainly plunder your resources for strategies before embarking on their path. The stupid ones... well, who cares about the stupid ones?

If there's no profit to be had from it then I put it to you that this will be a flash in the pan, in any case. Still, I am very surprised that you can't recover anything at all from Drifter wrecks. Do they scuttle before destruction?

But I agree with you that the flag waving and tear wiping aspects are distasteful.

You probably ought to note that you're talking to someone who's part of the organization currently leading the cluster in terms of the development of economically viable methods of Drifter hunting, Pieter.

It's one of the things ARC does.

Brute force problem solving is well and good, if and when you actually have sufficient force to call it brute in the first place.

Given that the majority of capsuleers, for some reason, look at Drifters and then run away screaming instead of investing a bit of time and effort in figuring out how to combat them effectively, it's rather arguable that this is not a case of brute force being applied.

As it stands, there are very few groups bothering to even look at the problem let alone devote time to it. Outside of perhaps some groups residing in space where the Arithmos Tyrannos patrol, nobody else really seems to be bothering aside from ARC.

And at the rate the refining of our own methods is progressing - methods which are entirely available to the public, by the way - we're very soon going to be reaching a point where the only way to get more effective is to start throwing more ISK at the problem... which in some ways defeats the purpose of being economically viable.

Except, speaking as a veteran of both activities (I really hesitate to call either of them an occupation), the two are wholly different beasts.

Against Kuvakei's forces, if you screw up, with very few exceptions, you will usually have a safety net in the form of your logistics wing.

Against Drifters, it is the exact opposite when their superweapon comes into play. At that point, it doesn't matter how big your logistics wing is; if the discharge from one of them hits you, outside of a few very specific, very un-economically viable circumstances, you are going to be violently separated from your ship and its crew in short order.

The best way to not lose a ship to Drifters is, quite simply, to avoid being hit by that discharge. The methods involved in doing so are not viable below a certain number of pilots - and on top of that, they generally require careful coordination and piloting, neither of which seem a particularly common resource. The slightest mistake can and will result in the loss of someone's ship and crew.

It also means flying ships that are cruiser-sized and smaller - which unfortunately restricts your options quite heavily, because if you go too small you simply don't have enough in the way of defenses to survive the Drifters' main guns on approach - which is why there's a minimum number of pilots required to actually do something. And if you go too big, well...

Let's just say that Drifters are already fairly adept at hitting small moving targets. They don't need you to help them out by flying something with the signature of a Splinterz stadium.

We're not suggesting in the slightest that we've seen all there is to see. Just stating that, at present, with what we have seen thus far, we're about as refined as we're going to get barring some changes in technology.

We have some things that we're fiddling with and going to test tomorrow. You're more than welcome to tag along if you'd like, and see things first-hand.