EVE General Discussion

To quote a chronicle...

http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=20-09-10

The Voluval is the sacred coming-of-age ceremony for the Minmatar.



If you want to do something that is "unique" to each race to make them all a little different, the Voluval is definately a winner for the Matari.

Ever since I woke up in a hotel room after a eve meet with the words amarr victor writting in byro all across my arm I aimed to have my char take a similar tatoo on his arm. Custom lettering that follows the contours of your body? Since you where able to do it for zombieboy, make it so...

PS: The zombieboy tatoo would be an excellent pirate/blood raiders item.


really fat people are hard to create. I understand the limits regarding char interaction later, but still. More variation in actual body size/build would be nice and immersive. Although the lack of different sizes at least an be explained my standard cloning processes. Fatness is a must though.


Sometimes it starts loading a piece of clothing that I did not want to load just because while scrolling between all the options I accentually click to hard. Perhaps a different way of scrolling between options that include more then 3 options, especially for the larger selections.


I personally wouldn't like bloodline changes, on the other hand its technically feasible in the lore of EVE to become whatever you want through clones. So I guess any opposition should be cultural. But names and faces often belong together so I wouldn't like to see it since it would be (almost) the same as changing a name.


Not only racial clothing or resctriction but racial difference between bloodlines, the Amarr seem to be the only ones that have pulled it of (some Minmatar, meh). Kata Amentis voluval idea is an excellent example.

I'd also like to see the medal system instituted into the portrait. If you have medals you should get to display them on your char if you want. Some military blouses even seem to have left room for it. FW medals for instance should be incorperated into the cloth of a player that is in FW

Lettering on your shirts like real military blouses (name/rank) have and corp/alliance logo's on clothing same for tattoos. And more insignias.

1) When sculpting body or facial features, it is often hard to tell exactly what parts of the body are being affected. In addition, there is no way to make minor changes. When clicking and dragging an area, about the only real changes you can make are major. It can be difficult to get the exact look you want because there is no way to make fine adjustments. Giving some indication of what you are doing compared to the "original" state would be very helpful. (I spent around an hour each trying to get just the right look that I wanted for each of my 6 avatars.) Also, why can't I create a taller/shorter than average, or obviously fat/thin avatar?

2) Found the tucking options quite easily, as well as the randomize ability (even though I never use this option). Tucking/untucking pants into boots is fine, tucking/untucking shirt hem into pants is fine as well. It would be nice to see some additional tucking options (or additional clothing), e.g. more short- to mid-length sleeve shirts, or the ability to roll sleeves up.

3) Body tattoos would be a cool addition, but wouldn't be seen, due to the restrictions on the current character portaits. Arm/shoulder tattoos, however, would be visible, and are more common and likely than face tattoos.

4) Non-tinted glasses would be a nice option (I wear glasses IRL), but as someone mentioned in a previous post, would not be real likely within the EVE setting. Most people in EVE would not wear glasses as some form of vision correction via surgery or implants would probably be common and inexpensive.

5) Body modifications are fine for the most part, however, a few more options should be added. Currently, it is not possible (as far as I know) to have earrings in both the ear lobe and upper ear. The ability to combine piercing options should be available for those that want to go the piercing extreme.

6) The only small usability issue I had I mentioned in point 1, regarding making minor adjustments to body sculpting.

7) I would like to be able to change the race/bloodline of a couple of my avatars. For example, Commander Starfox (one of my alts), no looks distinctly Asian, whereas originally, she seemed to be Caucasian. I was vaguely irritated by this (not that I don't like the new look she has). The ability to change race/bloodline should be allowed once to each avatar for free, to allow players to create the look they want. After that if they are not happy, perhaps allowing race/bloodline changes for a fee (similar to character transfers or portrait swaps) could be implemented.

8) As for other suggestions, additional types of clothing (dresses, skirts, shorts, etc.) in addition to more styles of existing clothing types and additional hairstyles would be nice. The biggest thing that I miss, however, is accessories. Using the comparison of Commander Starfox again, she formerly had a comm headset and a HUD eyepiece. Things like HUDs, headsets, earpieces, hats, jewelry, and other types of accessories are sorely missing, and make it difficult (for me at least) to achieve the exact look desired for avatar.

I am looking forward to the rest of WIS (whenever it gets released), and the ability to interact with my fellow capsuleeers in ways other than shooting at each other. Making avatars more unique, like RL individuals are, would go a long way, IMO. I grow somewhat tired of seeing "cookie-cutter" avatar appearances, where everyone looks pretty much the same, with few exceptions (Large Collidable Object and Lady Harlot, for examples). Regardless, to all capsuleers,

Fly safe

P.S. No offense or insult was intended to either Large Collidable Object or Lady Harlot. My personal opinion is that your avatars are hideous, yet I enjoy seeing them on the forums because they are a change from the drab, near-identical looks of almost everyone else out here (I include myself in this "cookie-cutter" group, btw). Good job on being original and creative, and achieving the unique, if somewhat disturbing, look that you have. Congratulations on achieving individuality in a world of clones.

This alt turned out a lot better than he was originally, but my main wants his long, straight hair back, as well as his robe and narrow facial features. He used to have a passable "evil scientist" look, but now he's more of a "kindly middle-aged father figure from somewhere in middle America". It makes for a good portrait, but it's not what I wanted and it's far too conservative for the kind of far-future society I always imagined Eve to have.

To be honest, I am very disappointed with the current direction of Eve's art style in general. When I first started playing this game, it had a strange but distinctive look to it. It could result in terrible ugliness at times, but it was self-consistent and greatly added to the feeling that, despite their human ancestry, there was something very alien about the people of New Eden. Unfortunately, we now have a growing collection of generic symmetrical ships, and avatars that mostly look just like the people you see on TV.

The character creator, as an avatar-generation system, is a great piece of technology; you just have it calibrated wrong for this game. I'm glad you turned the knob from Glittervamp to Hollywood, but you really need to keep going until you get to Transhuman.

Bloodlines should be a little more distinct. Maybe not as much as they were originally, but enough to make it plausible that these groups developed on different planets. Clothing and accessory options should be expanded greatly. Most of what we have now wouldn't be bad, as part of a much larger and more varied selection, but it doesn't stand on its own. We need utilitarian working clothes for miners and industrialists, lab coats for scientists, snappy suits for traders, and armor for warriors. All of it should have a strong sci-fi flavor. Don't be afraid to get a little crazy; we're talking about societies that couldn't get farther from 21st century cultural norms if they tried.

All in all the editor itself is great, I have made and will make alts just because I enjoy the creative possibilities it offers. (Yes there are players who enjoy both blowing up **** and space barbies :D ) UI is stylish and easy to use. I even used it earlier on a seriously underpowered hardware (sculpting and styling in low quality mode, then switching to HQ after posing in the portait phase). More content (haircuts, clothes and especially backgrounds etc) is obviously the main gripe for us all.

- I'd like to have the option to view the final portrait snapshot in the large version before commiting. (512px)
- Yes, noticed and played with tucking options. More of small, cool details like this please :)
- Yes for body tattoos
- No issues with body modifications

- Usability issues:
#1 for me is the zooming in portrait stage. I'd like to have either keys or a slider for precise zooming, mousewheel is just too crude and especially terrible on low performance setups. Same problem with scrolling through options with the scrollwheel.
#2 It would be great to be able to pause the animation for surgical work!
#3 The activation area for adjusting head tilt is very narrow and in some poses/camera angles impossible to grab

- Bloodline is bloodline and should not be changed
- Having more options to fine-tune the lighting would be awesome ("free" move for direction)

I would like to create a black character that isn't part of the minmatar slave race and make my guy fat/thin or tall/short if i want to.

Thank you all for your input
(please keep it coming )

(it's fine that you bring up all the assets you find missing, or have problems with, but just so you know, my team and I are not very likely to be able to do anything about that, we are more focusing on the functionality of the character creator. And as you probably know, CCP's focus has shifted over to spaceships so I'm not sure the art team has the bandwith to address those issues, at least not now).

Ya know what I want to see? Fully synthetic capsuleers. Implants? More like brain modules! A fully synthetic capsuleer that can hot swap implants would be AWESOME! A one time conversion of your clone for an ungodly amount of isk. This replaces your clones apperance and it will look like a robot/cyborg. One thing is though, if you get podded, you lose the augmentation +implants.

Balanced? yes, it could even have a blueprint! Of course it could even be perverted by the demonic Aur system. But, isk will do it best.

I WANT TO SEE FULLY SYNTHETIC CAPSULEERS!!!

P.S: This would totally f-in rock! especially for 0.0 people who rat all the time but would risk their full lg snake set RATHER than their full crystal set for pvp without having to jumpclone for 24 hours!

P.S.S: YES

P.S.S.S: THIS SHOULD HAPPEN!!!

That's fair enough.

To be honest, I haven't been back to the character creator once I'd done mine. Partly as there wasn't much need (and not enough variation) and partly as I didn't want to make a mistake and lose what I already had.

Anyway, from my limited experience and reading this thread, it appears that the functionality is pretty much ok. The variety of assets is a much bigger issue and unfortunately one that will have to wait.

I completely understand (and agree) why WiS was done this way, but so many new EvE features are released, found to be a bit buggy and then pretty much left to rot. See Faction Warfare as just one example.

I'll just leave this here for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qiVH0fO_us


LONG LIVE SWG!
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That would be a raison to quit Eve.